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Old November 13, 2012, 10:36 PM   #1
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New savage axis

Just picked up a new savage axis youth left handed in 7mm08. Put a pentax gameseeker 2 2.5x7 scope on it. I am happy to be able to get back in the deer woods.

I was thinking of sighting it in 1.5" high at 100 yards. What say you TFL brain trust.
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Old November 13, 2012, 10:47 PM   #2
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1.5" high at 100 is just fine. I like to stay around 2" high or less at max. I'm guessing 1.5 high at 100 would be around 2" high at 130 and dropping from there. Any shot far enough to require compensating otherwise will give you time to adjust.
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Old November 13, 2012, 10:55 PM   #3
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According to Horniday the 7mm08 load im using is dead on at 200 if 1 1/2 high at 100. I think that puts maximum point blank range at 4 inches.
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Old November 13, 2012, 11:08 PM   #4
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I'm not sure exactly what you mean by "maximum point blank at 4 inches"

If you mean never more than 4" high or low, you would be much more than a 200 yard zero with a 7mm-08.

The standard 7-08 round is 140 at 2,950fps.

A 139gr Hornady SP with a 4" MBPR, would be at 327 yards according to JBM Ballistics

With that bullet, 1.5" high at 100 would give you a 200 yard zero and 4" low at 278.
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Old November 13, 2012, 11:13 PM   #5
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ok soo....

I can expect to be within +- 4 inches elevation from close up to just about 300 yards?
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Old November 13, 2012, 11:19 PM   #6
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MPBR is that range at which the bullet is the same amount low as it's maximum amount high.

If you sight in to be a maximum of 4" high, your MBPR would be that range where you are 4" low.

In the example above, you would be 4" high from 150-160 yards and 4" low at 327. To sight in for that, you'd want to check several ranges as you can't count on the bullet to exactly match predictions.

Personally, I don't like to be that high. I want to be 3" high at the most and I like 2" better. 2.5" high at 130 would put you 2.5" low at 275. That's closer to what I'd want. I don't like having to think about aiming low for close shots.
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Old November 14, 2012, 10:59 AM   #7
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The rifle answered some questions for me

Shot this morning before work to get a reasonable deer hunting zero. The fella who set it up for me did an awesome job bore sighting it because I never even touched a scope dial.

I first shot at 25 yards to see if I was on paper. I was dead on at 25 yards. One round and said ok time to go to 100. The gun is just about an inch and a half high at 100 yards just as suspected. Backed off to 50 and we are dead on at 50.

So basically the rifle is at a 200 yard zero from what I can tell and is dead on within a hundred.

I will obviously shoot way more often however this will get me back in the woods.

My only quam with this rifle is the bolt sticks just a little. I figure that will work loose.

What I did not find that I was expecting to was a terribly unusable trigger that required heavy equipment to move. I find it to have a fine trigger. Not the best I've ever used but no wores than alot of other rifles I have shot.

I am not spoiled by their famed accutrigger as I have never shot one so perhaps my expectations are more in line with reality.

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Old November 14, 2012, 04:04 PM   #8
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My axis bolt is actually surprisingly smooth, I'm sure it'll smooth out some.

Rifle basix makes a replacement for the axis if you ever want to lighten it up some more.
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Old November 14, 2012, 04:11 PM   #9
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bolt

I have shot this enough to take hunting but not enough to make any judgments yet. I will keep rifle basix in mind.
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Old November 15, 2012, 02:53 PM   #10
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Loads

Anyone have any great loads for theses

I am shot in with 139 GR Hornady Superformance SST. Anyone know anything that these really really like?

Thanks, Vermonter
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Old November 15, 2012, 03:07 PM   #11
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My bolt was smooth as butter on my axis .223 but a buddies .308 was real stiff but it did smooth out after shooting for a bit. as for the trigger, pull your action out of your stock and clip about 1 1/2 coils off your trigger spring. Amazing what it can do.
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Old November 15, 2012, 08:25 PM   #12
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Bolt sticks when? I have a Remy 700 in 7-08 that had heavy bolt lift with Hornady Superperformance loads.
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Old November 15, 2012, 09:13 PM   #13
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Bolt

It is overall stiff. Not just shootig. Interesting about superformance causing it though.
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Old November 20, 2012, 04:02 PM   #14
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Dangerous Practice

Please don't cut your trigger spring ! Replace it with a lighter spring of the same length . Then you won't have created an unsafe gun !
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Old November 20, 2012, 04:05 PM   #15
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I've heard many mentions on this forum and others about Superformance ammo showing characteristics of high pressures !
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Old November 20, 2012, 04:30 PM   #16
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Hey how ya been long time no talk. Hopefullly you have done ok in our deer woods. First I have no plans on a trigger mod as mine is not all that bad at all. Frankly the trigger on my copy is on par with other off the shelf guns they had there and shoots fine for me.

As to superformance I am using it specifically to loose less velocity out of my short youth barreled gun. It follows hornady's charts on a 24" bbl exactly. In other words the velocity #s seem to match a with their balistic calculators as though there was no velocity loss. It prints 1 1/2 high at 100 yards which makes for a 200 yard zero. I shot it at 25 yard intervils within 100 yards and the groupings matched the trajectory on the table almost perfectly.

To me it seems like this load is achieving what it was meant to. I am going to hunt the rest of this year with it for the very least unless you tell me something that should scare me a great deal.

Regards, Vermonter

ETA: My barrel is a 20" barrel in orther words I seem to have gotten a 4" shorter barrel that will shot like the full size.
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