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Old November 4, 2012, 11:13 AM   #1
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Help with MY Christmas present

If you could only buy one of these revolvers, which would you choose? I'm counting on your experience.

Army 1860 from Taylors and Co.

Pietta Model 1851 engraved
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Old November 4, 2012, 11:41 AM   #2
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I like the smooth flowing lines of the 1860. It's really hard to pick just one, I usuallly think of it as which one do I want 1st?
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Old November 4, 2012, 11:58 AM   #3
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While I do own both, I'm partial to the '60s myself.
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Old November 4, 2012, 01:24 PM   #4
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Beag has the right approach

Get one or two of each.

But seriously, I am not a fan of the fanciness. Engraving does not impress me in most cases.
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Old November 4, 2012, 03:06 PM   #5
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The engraving is 'pretty' on the Pietta, but overall I prefer the 1860. Great looking gun that looks sturdy as well. If I had to choose one, that would be it. ~Craig
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Old November 4, 2012, 05:15 PM   #6
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I love my 1860, but that damn Pietta 51 is beautiful! I would have to go with that.
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Old November 4, 2012, 06:47 PM   #7
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While in a perfect world, you could purchase both, if I could only choose one, Id go with the 1860.
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Old November 4, 2012, 08:15 PM   #8
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Hard choice. Having owned both I'd probably go with the plain 1851 or the London Navy with the steel grip frame.
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Old November 4, 2012, 08:26 PM   #9
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Tough choice

Both are nice. If you're looking at paying that price for the Uberti, look at Cabela's Pietta Model 150th Anniversary 1860 Army .44 Caliber Revolver... the gold 'crossed sabers' is a nice touch.

*I might point out that Dixie Gun Works has the RH0342 Uberti 1860 Army Revolver for $295.00 and several other 1860's for less than Taylor's price.

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Old November 4, 2012, 10:11 PM   #10
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All aesthetics aside, there is a definite difference in the feel between the Navy and the Army. Go somewhere where you can handle each WITH EYES CLOSED and feel which one points better. To me, the Navy is the most natural pointing firearm ever created, but if you have large hands, the grips may feel TOO small.
Engraving and faux ivory never did a damn thing for me; the Taylor's is probably the higher quality of the two. But you do need to hold them.
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Old November 4, 2012, 11:00 PM   #11
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I agree that the grips should be compared.
But from what I understand the 1851 and 1860 grip frames are interchangeable between guns from the same manufacturer.
Since they can be swapped, then a person can have the best of both worlds if they don't mind paying the price to have both their favorite grip and Colt model.
Maybe there are some folks out there looking to buy another grip frame or are willing to trade.

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Old November 4, 2012, 11:14 PM   #12
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Pietta Navy grips are not the same shape as just about every other Colt Navy (SAA) grip made. The engraving is likely rolled rather than carved. It could also be lasergraved(?). The Taylors '60 Army would be my pick. Bigger caliber and likely that you could even shoot 200gr conicals in it. You can't in a Pietta Army but might be able to in a Uberti (I can in my ASM 1860 Army).

As was stated before, handling them and also picking out a target some distance away and shutting your eyes and aiming at it then opening your eyes to see where the gun naturally points would be what I would do. Pietta Navies point high for me so I have swapped off the Navy grips for Army ones but then I only have 44 cal "Navies" from Pietta. My 44 Navies from ASM have normal Navy grips and are my "serious match" guns where I get the best handling, speed and accuracy from them above all the C&B guns I have owned (over 30).
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Old November 5, 2012, 03:28 AM   #13
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I like the 51 better personally.
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Old November 5, 2012, 08:40 PM   #14
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I cast my vote for the 1860 Army.
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Old November 7, 2012, 09:52 PM   #15
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At that price, the navy because of the engraving. But I hate the white grips.
For that matter I hate white grips on ANY firearm
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Old November 8, 2012, 10:00 AM   #16
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I love white grips! I must have them on at least four guns (a PPK, PPK/S, Ruger Vaquero, engraved polished stainless custom 1911) and maybe more.
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Old November 9, 2012, 04:38 PM   #17
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At that price, the navy because of the engraving. But I hate the white grips.
For that matter I hate white grips on ANY firearm
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I love white grips! I must have them on at least four guns (a PPK, PPK/S, Ruger Vaquero, engraved polished stainless custom 1911) and maybe more.
A matter of taste, mostly.

Not a fan of them myself, but beauty is in the eye of the beholder.
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Old November 9, 2012, 05:51 PM   #18
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I'd go with the 1860.
Which BTW I have a NIB Uberti that can be had for $245 shipped which is $100 lower then Taylors.
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Old November 9, 2012, 07:54 PM   #19
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bro, you may want to scope out "Gunbroker.com" before you go shellin out all that money to these big companies. Theres a lot going for sale now, I just picked up a Pietta Griswold for $137. Theoretically, you could have both (maybe not the engraved 51, but it is in .44 instead of the .36 it's supposed to be), or find some very similar. Two guns instead of one, twice the fun!
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Old November 9, 2012, 07:57 PM   #20
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I just noticed that Cabelas has their 1860 on sale for $199.99 too.
It's a Pietta, but those are pretty nice! (I got a "couple" of em. )
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Old November 9, 2012, 09:24 PM   #21
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That's a great deal the OP should jump on it, they end the sales fast sometimes, I own at least four Piettas great guns for sure.
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Old November 10, 2012, 06:46 PM   #22
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I bought a Traditions (Pietta) 1860 a while back with their "antique" finish. It was in their bargains area and as I recall was less than $300.00. Each to his or her own but IMHO it is the nicest looking 1860 I have. Since most of my guns are safe queens looks are job one.
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Old November 10, 2012, 08:29 PM   #23
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Start with the 1860. And that pretty engraving on the cylinder, I do not believe it enhances the gun. A good shooter is of more value to me than a "pretty" gun. You will end up owning both anyway.
It really depends on your preference, the 1851 points great etc. I believe the 1860 is a better gun overall.
If you are like most of us, you will end up with many models made by many companies. The 1860 is good place to start.
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