Rock Island .22TCM

Wyoredman · November 6, 2012, 04:54 PM

I was just in the local pawn/gun shop over lunch and he has a RI 1911 chambered in the new .22 TCM! Wow, it looks pretty neat! Has anyone bought one of these yet?

The price is $535.00 and it comes with a 9mm barrel and recoils spring and extractor. Sounds like a pretty sweet shooter.

The shop owner told me that Armscor sells the ammo for $30.00/50 and will reload the emty brass for $11/per box. Not sure if this is true.

Any experience that would sway my impulse for or against?

Thanks.

Wyoredman · November 6, 2012, 05:08 PM

Before anyone jumps me for not using the search option, I did and here is the best thread I found:
http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...ghlight=22+tcm

I was just hoping some more actual owners would step up and answer my questions.

BTW-Did they come out with dies and component bullets, yet?

Eppie · November 6, 2012, 05:15 PM

I had a RIA 9mm/.22TCM. Mine was a double stack mag (17 rounds), I assume the one that you are looking at is also.

The first thing you have to relize is that the .22TCM is a proprietary caliber that only Armscor make. The cost is very close to WWB 9mm. So why bother with the .22? I bought it to use it strictly as a 9mm range gun.

The second thing, actually the main thing, is that mine failed to extract about 3 or four times with each magazine. I tried to resolve the issue, but nothing seemed to work. I didn't want to start spending more money trying to get it work or shipping it back for repairs only to end up in the same place six months later. After about 600 rounds through it it didn't improve, so I traded it to a guy for a Sig P226. He was happy to get it, I was happy to get rid of it.

Wyoredman · November 6, 2012, 05:26 PM

Eppie, Wondering if that is why it comes with a seperate extractor now for the 9mm barrel? Did yours?

Eppie · November 6, 2012, 05:54 PM

Mine also came with an extractor for the .22TCM. I assume it is because of differences in the cartridge.

Like I said, I never used the .22 stuff. I think its just a trojan horse to move more ammo. When it comes to new calibers I am definately a skeptic. Physics don't change sales pitches do.

Most people like to focus on the gun, I like to focus on the ammo. Over the years I spend a lot more on ammo then I do on the guns. YMMV.

Valerko · November 6, 2012, 08:18 PM

http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ69tHTrYJ0
This might help.

Thee also few people on 1911 forum that have a lot of positive things to say about it.
It does look like interesting cartridge. Call my LHS to look into it for me. Especially since I need NY compliant magazine

Aguila Blanca · November 7, 2012, 08:18 PM

I don't think Armscor has any capacity-restricted magazines for it, but the Armscor double stacks are clones of Para-Ordnance and the TCM will accept Para 9mm magazines. They're a bit pricey, but you can buy 10-round magazines from the Para Pro Shop.

Super Sneaky Steve · December 18, 2012, 10:30 PM

http://youtu.be/3KTvDbWdv0s

More on the TCM. I think this cartridge would be great in a scoped revolver. You could blow up critters from a distance with it.

Maybe put it in a nice carbine.

kahrguy · December 20, 2012, 12:42 PM

After watch some reviews between the fn's 5.7x28 and the 22tcm the tcm kicks but in a handgun over fn's little cartidge in a carbine and offers real 2100fps+ in a pistols 5" barrel . Even compaired to the 9mm fmj and 45acp on balisitc glass it out preforms the other two. Interesting round not to be over looked

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B56ymiv3-YQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B56ymiv3-YQ

Noreaster · December 20, 2012, 03:51 PM

Looks like a great coyote pistol round. I would love to try it out.

Aguila Blanca · December 20, 2012, 05:59 PM

The M1911.ORG e-zine just published their review of this pistol:

http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=150

kahrguy · December 20, 2012, 07:08 PM

Looks like a solid review .

November 6, 2012, 04:54 PM	#1
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 996	Rock Island .22TCM I was just in the local pawn/gun shop over lunch and he has a RI 1911 chambered in the new .22 TCM! Wow, it looks pretty neat! Has anyone bought one of these yet? The price is $535.00 and it comes with a 9mm barrel and recoils spring and extractor. Sounds like a pretty sweet shooter. The shop owner told me that Armscor sells the ammo for $30.00/50 and will reload the emty brass for $11/per box. Not sure if this is true. Any experience that would sway my impulse for or against? Thanks. __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

November 6, 2012, 05:08 PM	#2
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 996	Before anyone jumps me for not using the search option, I did and here is the best thread I found: http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...ghlight=22+tcm I was just hoping some more actual owners would step up and answer my questions. BTW-Did they come out with dies and component bullets, yet? __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

November 6, 2012, 05:15 PM	#3
Eppie Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 530	I had a RIA 9mm/.22TCM. Mine was a double stack mag (17 rounds), I assume the one that you are looking at is also. The first thing you have to relize is that the .22TCM is a proprietary caliber that only Armscor make. The cost is very close to WWB 9mm. So why bother with the .22? I bought it to use it strictly as a 9mm range gun. The second thing, actually the main thing, is that mine failed to extract about 3 or four times with each magazine. I tried to resolve the issue, but nothing seemed to work. I didn't want to start spending more money trying to get it work or shipping it back for repairs only to end up in the same place six months later. After about 600 rounds through it it didn't improve, so I traded it to a guy for a Sig P226. He was happy to get it, I was happy to get rid of it. __________________ Experience is a very bad teacher because it first gives you the test and then teaches you the lesson.

November 6, 2012, 05:26 PM	#4
Wyoredman Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2011 Location: Wyoming Posts: 996	Eppie, Wondering if that is why it comes with a seperate extractor now for the 9mm barrel? Did yours? __________________ Go Pokes! Go Rams!

November 6, 2012, 05:54 PM	#5
Eppie Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2010 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 530	Wyoredman Mine also came with an extractor for the .22TCM. I assume it is because of differences in the cartridge. Like I said, I never used the .22 stuff. I think its just a trojan horse to move more ammo. When it comes to new calibers I am definately a skeptic. Physics don't change sales pitches do. Most people like to focus on the gun, I like to focus on the ammo. Over the years I spend a lot more on ammo then I do on the guns. YMMV. __________________ Experience is a very bad teacher because it first gives you the test and then teaches you the lesson.

November 6, 2012, 08:18 PM	#6
Valerko Senior Member Join Date: April 28, 2012 Location: NY Posts: 112	http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tJ69tHTrYJ0 This might help. Thee also few people on 1911 forum that have a lot of positive things to say about it. It does look like interesting cartridge. Call my LHS to look into it for me. Especially since I need NY compliant magazine

November 7, 2012, 08:18 PM	#7
Aguila Blanca Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 4,842	I don't think Armscor has any capacity-restricted magazines for it, but the Armscor double stacks are clones of Para-Ordnance and the TCM will accept Para 9mm magazines. They're a bit pricey, but you can buy 10-round magazines from the Para Pro Shop.

December 18, 2012, 10:30 PM	#8
Super Sneaky Steve Senior Member Join Date: August 9, 2011 Posts: 533	http://youtu.be/3KTvDbWdv0s More on the TCM. I think this cartridge would be great in a scoped revolver. You could blow up critters from a distance with it. Maybe put it in a nice carbine. __________________ anti-state, anti-war, pro-market

December 20, 2012, 12:42 PM	#9
kahrguy Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2012 Posts: 356	After watch some reviews between the fn's 5.7x28 and the 22tcm the tcm kicks but in a handgun over fn's little cartidge in a carbine and offers real 2100fps+ in a pistols 5" barrel . Even compaired to the 9mm fmj and 45acp on balisitc glass it out preforms the other two. Interesting round not to be over looked http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B56ymiv3-YQ http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B56ymiv3-YQ

December 20, 2012, 03:51 PM	#10
Noreaster Senior Member Join Date: January 30, 2011 Location: New England Posts: 980	Looks like a great coyote pistol round. I would love to try it out.

December 20, 2012, 05:59 PM	#11
Aguila Blanca Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2008 Location: CONUS Posts: 4,842	The M1911.ORG e-zine just published their review of this pistol: http://ezine.m1911.org/showthread.php?t=150

December 20, 2012, 07:08 PM	#12
kahrguy Senior Member Join Date: October 1, 2012 Posts: 356	Looks like a solid review .