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Old November 5, 2012, 04:36 PM   #1
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The Rossi matched pair...

Single shot pistol

The handgun in this topic is much like the long gun of the same name.

It is supplied with 2 barrels a .45/410 that can use a modified choke (also supplied with choke wrench) and a .22 LR barrel

I'm looking forward to picking one up soon for ammo tests, I think it should do very well with the Federal 3-inch #4 Buck load.

From the sample I have seen on 410handguns.com it should prove to be a good survival and plinking gun (which can also be used for a last ditch self defense arm if the need were to arise with either .45 colt or .410 buckshot)
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Old November 5, 2012, 04:51 PM   #2
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Hello Pfletch83,,,

Please let us know how the .22 barrel runs,,,
I've considered buying one for a long while now,,,
But every time I get the money up another gun tempts me more.

The one thing that keeps me from buying it is the darned 45/410 barrel,,,
If I could buy it with just the .22 barrel I would buy 2 of them,,,
Then build a wood case to emulate dueling pistols.

I'll anxiously await your range report.

Aarond

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Old November 5, 2012, 05:00 PM   #3
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I will...

Be sure to do so when I can.

I like it because of the ammo versatility,and after getting an NFA stamp,it would be nice to see what an 11-inch .410 barrel and slugs can do from a handgun (*I wouldn't advise that this be done without all legal means being followed first*)
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Old November 5, 2012, 05:13 PM   #4
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Why would this be an NFA item?

If the .45/410 barrel is rifled at all, it is still considered a pistol, even if it will fire shot shells, just like the Judge and Govenor revolvers. No NFA forms requiered unless you throw a rifle stock or suppressor on it.
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Old November 5, 2012, 08:10 PM   #5
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Evidently because its either a rifled barrel shorter than 16 in or a smooth bore / shotgun barrel shorter than 18 in.
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Old November 5, 2012, 08:40 PM   #6
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Evidently because its either a rifled barrel shorter than 16 in or a smooth bore / shotgun barrel shorter than 18 in.
Barrel length doesn't matter on a pistol/revolver with a rifled barrel.

If it is a smooth-bore barrel, its a whole different story, and it would not be able to be sold without being an NFA item from the start, but, it appears to have a rifled barrel for the .45/.410 (according to some magazine reviews, Ross's website lacks a bit of detail), so its just a pistol with a .45 caliber barrel, that just happens to be able to shoot shotshells from the same rifled barrel.
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Old November 5, 2012, 09:30 PM   #7
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Barrel length doesn't matter on a pistol/revolver with a rifled barrel
I assumed there was a provision for a shoulder stock but you're right, if its a straight up pistol, it does not matter. If shorter than 16 in with a shoulder stock then it would be illegal.
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Old November 5, 2012, 10:30 PM   #8
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Ive been interested in that gun as well and would appreciate any feed back you can provide.
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Old November 5, 2012, 10:40 PM   #9
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It's starting out as a title -1 pistol,but after all the legal paperwork is done I'm pretty sure it can be turned into an NFA item with a factory smoothbore barrel.
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Old November 6, 2012, 12:45 AM   #10
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You say a factory barrel, willl you be putting a smooth bore barrel from one of the rifle stocked versions on? Cutting it down in length?

Could be a potent little snake/rabbit/squirrel gun, but why the change to smoothbore? Hoping for better patterns?
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Old November 6, 2012, 12:00 PM   #11
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The main reason for the smooth bore is as a test bed for different ammo on the market.

Plus slugs would give better accuracy from a .410 barrel than they would from a .45 colt barrel.

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Old November 9, 2012, 05:16 AM   #12
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What meaningful information will you get from an AOW length .410 barrel?
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Old November 9, 2012, 06:19 AM   #13
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I have one and it's great. Puts a nice tight pattern of 10-12" at 7 yds with #6 birdshot w/choke. Haven't tried the Fed 3" 000 Buck w/5 pellets, but I have tried the 2 1/2" w/4 and it will blow thru 4 jugs of water at 10 yds. I think the 2 1/2" is more powerful than the 3" and holds a 5" pattern w/choke. I keep it right by the nightstand loaded with 000 in 2 1/2". Federal also has a #4 buckshot with 8 pellets in 3", but haven't tried that yet as I see no need for it.

The 22 is fun to shoot and is a good plinker out to 50 yds. The 45 is not accurate as the barrel is a bit wider than the normal judge and has a very light rifling. Be sure to pull the choke if you plan to use 45.
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Old November 9, 2012, 04:26 PM   #14
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Actually the Federal 3-inch offering is loaded with 9 #4 buck pellets ( same as a .22 caliber)

From what I have seen on the .410 handguns web site the #4 buck had a 2 inch spread at 15 feet and at 20 feet the pattern was 2-1/2 inches using the mod. choke.

15 feet

http://410handguns.com/wpimages/wp1a67842a_06.png


20 feet

http://410handguns.com/wpimages/wp524c704a_06.png
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Old November 9, 2012, 06:50 PM   #15
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That's pretty good pattern, but I like the heavier 000 rather than a 22 size hole.
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Old November 9, 2012, 07:58 PM   #16
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To be honest I like both.
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