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Old November 5, 2012, 12:32 PM   #1
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Share your favourite load!

Whats your favourite handload? tell us, no matter what caliber or gun.

Ill start:

for ruger gsr .308win (1in10twist)
My allround load:
165gr Sierra SBT #2145
38.5gr Benchmark
cci primer

reduced plinking load for short range (max 100yards):
165gr h&n copper-plated high-speed
16gr N110
cci magnum primer

for Anschuetz 1770D .223rem (1in9twist)
63gr Sierra smp #1370
24gr Benchmark
cci primer

i love those loads, especially the .308win plinking load, everybody should give it a try!
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Old November 5, 2012, 12:57 PM   #2
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.45acp 200gr LSWC (.452"dia 18BHN) over 4.8gr HP38/W231 at 1.250". 775fps +/- 7fps out of my SR1911
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Old November 5, 2012, 12:59 PM   #3
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It is good those loads work well in YOUR guns. There's no guarantee they would work in my guns. Or anyone elses for that matter.

That's what loading manuals are for, they give guidelines for starting load work-ups for your firearm.

There's no shortcut to finding loads that will bee accurate in your gun. I didn't check to see if your loads were max or not, but taking somebodies loads off a forum like this could be dangerous.
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Old November 5, 2012, 01:10 PM   #4
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I was going to take umbrage with your post Snuffy but now I see where you are coming from. I didnt notice the part about everyone trying the loads the first time I read the post (hence my post referencing my success in my own gun only).

I agree that taking a load off a forum and treating it as gospel is a bad idea. I have found many good suggestions on forums, which I later researched in loading manuals and properly worked up, but that's different.
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Old November 5, 2012, 01:43 PM   #5
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OK, I’ll play.

Don’t know what good this will do anyone but….

I have found over the years that very small changes in one thing can make very large changes in the final results. Some casings and loadings are very forgiving, others are not. Note the velocity changes below (300 BlackOut-110gr-19grs of H110) with only 0.065 inch difference in OAL. Move on to the loads for .223/5.56s, totally different parameters between these loads.

The point is, what works for me in one weapon may very well not work in a similar weapon and whatever your weapon/s may be could be completely wrong. Start loading at a known safe point and slowly work your loading to where ‘it’ meets your needs.

All loading data is for reference and comparison only. My loads, made up from my components may or may not be safe in your weapon/s in the manner you put them together. Only loads from known and trusted sources.

.223/5.56 – different loads for different weapons and uses.
5.56 FMJ 55 748 26.3 2724 AR180 18 inch 1 in 12 twist
5.56 HP 55 748 26.6 3013 MegaRock 20 inch 1 in 8 twist
5.56 AMAX 75 H4895 23.5 2677 MegaRock 20 inch 1 in 8 twist
5.56 SS109 62 Varget 26.5 2832 SS16 16 in 1 in 8 twist
5.56 SS109 62 748 24 SS16 16 in 1 in 8 twist
223 HP 50 748 25.5 2854 Rem 600 18.5 inch 1 in 14 twist
223 HP 50 IMR4895 25.9 3017 Rem 600 18.5 inch 1 in 14 twist
223 JSP 55 748 26.2 2912 Rem 600 18.5 inch 1 in 14 twist
223 FMJ 55 748 27.3 2817 Rem 600 18.5 inch 1 in 14 twist

300 AAC Blackout.
Cal Bullet B-weight Powder P-weight M-Velocity weapon OAL
300 V-Max 110 H110 19 2302 DSA 2.000in
300 V-Max 110 H110 19 2267.75 DSA 2.065in
300 V-Max 110 630 17.2 2328.5 DSA 2.010in
300 V-Max 110 LtGun 18.8 2262 DSA 2.010in
300 OTM 125 H110 17.8 2131 DSA 2.182in
300 M2 GI 147 H110 16.6 1945 DSA 2.065in
300 M2 GI 147 H110 17.5 1993.25 DSA 2.065in
300 M2 GI 147 630 13.5 1763.5 DSA 2.000in
300 M2 GI 147 630 13.4 1696.25 DSA 2.160in
300 M2 GI 147 LtGun 15 1870 DSA 2.160in
300 InterBond 150 LtGun 15 1790.8 DSA 2.069in
300 InterBond 150 H110 16.6 1908.2 DSA 2.069in

.308/7.62.
308 V-MAX 110 H4895 46 3103 M1A 22 inch 1 in 11 twist
308 V-MAX 110 H4895 46 2961 Rem 600 18.5 inch 1 in 10 twist
308 FMJ 150 748 43 2468 Rem 600 18.5 inch 1 in 10 twist
308 FMJ 150 748 43 2677 M1A 22 inch 1 in 11 twist
308 JSP 150 748 47 2662 M1A 22 inch 1 in 11 twist
308 JBT 150 748 48.5 2865 Rem 600 18.5 inch 1 in 10 twist

30.06 Spfd
30.06 JSPBT 150 748 48 2598 M1 Spfd
30.06 JSPBT 150 748 48 2651 M1 IHC
30.06 JSPBT 150 748 48 2531 03A3

.4X pistols
40 XTP 155 231 5.4 923 SPFD XD
40 L 155 231 5.3 912 SPFD XD
40 XTP 155 TightGroup 5.8 1069 SPFD XD
44 JHP 240 630 19.5 1256 S&W M29-2
44 JHP 240 630 19.5 1272.5 S&W M29-4
45 JHC 185 231 1070 AMT
45 LSW 204 231 5.6 846 AMT


Be safe and enjoy,

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Old November 5, 2012, 02:21 PM   #6
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It is good those loads work well in YOUR guns. There's no guarantee they would work in my guns. Or anyone elses for that matter.
While this is solid advice and well stated, it doesn't ruin the spirit of the thread no matter how grumpy and curmudgeonly it's offered.

I've had great luck with a 9mm load sending a 125gr Dardas cast lead round nose bullet loaded to 1.140" COAL with 4.5 grains of Hodgdon Universal. It's one of few loads that I simply don't mess around with -- when I make this ammo, I make 500-800 of them and stockpile. I use it to mow down steel plates from assorted handguns, but mostly from my Witness Elite Match.

I'll include another load because it's not a popular one-- my typical .30 Carbine load is the Berry's 110 grain plated round nose slug over 12.5 grains of Alliant 2400, loaded to 1.65" COAL with non-mag small rifle primers, typically CCI.

This is not a barnburning load, but I only shoot them from a Ruger Blackhawk and though the handgun is overbuilt for the task, the tapered and rimless .30 Carb case becomes a real nightmare to poke out of the chambers when you attempt to hotrod the ammo. The Berry's bullets are thick plated and speed rated to 1,900 FPS, and I'm not even approaching that velocity from my 7.5" barrel. This load offers a large muzzle blast, a ridiculously loud report and very little felt recoil from a 44 ounce revolver. It's beautifully accurate and is capable of 100 yard groups if I'm having a really good day and my target is big enough for me to focus on. At shorter distances, it's one of the most accurate center fire handguns that I own.
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Old November 5, 2012, 04:28 PM   #7
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1. .270 winchester, 130 grain Accubond, Hornady brass, CCI 200 primer, 53 grns H4350.
2. .243 winchester, 100 Sierra Gameking, Winchester brass, CCI 200 primer, 47.5 grns of Winchester Supreme 780.
3.30-06 Springfield, 150 grn Ballistic Tip, Hornady brass, CCI 200 primer, 57.5 grns of IMR 4350.
4. 7mm Rem Mag, 140 grn Accubond, Winchester brass, CCI 250 primer, 61.0 grn IMR 4831.
5. 7mm Rem Mag, 150 Partition, Winchester brass, CCi 250 primer, 61.5 grns of IMR 4350.
6. 7mm Rem Mag, 150 grn Ballistic Tip, Winchester brass, CCI 250 primer, 61.5 grns IMR 4831.
7. 7mm Rem Mag, 160 Accubond, Hornady brass, CCI 250 primer, 61.8 grns IMR 7828.
Not only Am I not responsible for the misuse of these loads The Firing Line isn't either.
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Old November 5, 2012, 08:32 PM   #8
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My favorite load is for my David Gentry Mark X Mauser in 35 Whelen Ackley Improved 40° with 24 inch, 1 in 14" twist barrel and 3-9x Nikon scope.



I start with new Remington 35 Whelen cases fireformed with 32 grains of 5744 and a 250 gr. lead RN-GC from Montana Bulletworks, trimmed to 2.48 inches.

62 grains of Alliant Power Pro 2000 MR powder over a WLR primer.

250 grain Hornady Spitzer seated to 3.34 inches OAL.

Chronographed at 15 feet in 60° weather @ 2628 fps average of 3 shots into .475 inch group at 100 yards off sandbag rest.
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Old November 6, 2012, 01:40 AM   #9
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I really like 21.5 grains of IMR 4198 for 5.56 in my 1x7 twist AR-15 20" barrel.

I've been loading that for years (ack decades!) and it's been proven to be quite reliable and accurate for me.

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Old November 6, 2012, 02:17 AM   #10
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I've been reworking some loads and doing more comparisons and came up with a couple of favorite loads so far.

.223 Rem, FN 20" 1/7 A4 rifle
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65 gr SGK SP, Varget 24.6 gr, COL=2.240"
60 gr HP, Varget 24.6 gr, COL=2.240"
60 gr Nosler BT, Varget 24.6 gr, COL=2.240"
I find that Varget is very consistent over a range of powder weights. I can sometimes get better accuracy with H335 but it a specific weight and other weights open up the groups. Also, this 24.6 gr load seems one of the most accurate (of BLC2, H335 and H4895) for just about any bullet in the 60-65 gr range.

65 gr SGK SP, H335 23.8 gr, COL=2.240"
Just as accurate, maybe slightly more so, than Varget but groups open up on either side of this weight for me. While Varget is my go-to powder for 60+ gr bullets, H335 is proving there is always one or two powder loads that are just as accurate as Varget.

75 gr BTHP, Varget 23.0 gr, COL=2.250"
Very accurate for me considering the non-match grade rifle and shooting is done fairly informally to sort of represent field or fun match conditions.
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Old November 6, 2012, 09:57 AM   #11
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.357 Mag, 180 gr Hornady GMX, Starline brass, CCI 550 primer, 12.6 H110
.270 Win, 140 gr Hornady Interlock BTSP, win Brass, Fed 210 primer, 51 gr IMR4350
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Old November 6, 2012, 11:45 AM   #12
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Good loads that work well in my gun may indeed work well in your gun also. There's no guarentee they will but it would not be a surprise if they worked well in your gun.

People are fond of saying it's ok in my gun but wont be in yours. Differences in chamber dimensions and such may seem to shine light on the myth and bring truth to it, but it is certainly not an established fact, and outright wrong in most cases.

There's a lot of loads that shoot well in many guns. That's why some loads are sort of standardized. Like 19.0 gr of 2400 under a 245 gr 44 Mag, or 8.5 gr of Unique under a 255 gr 45 Colt, or 42.5 gr of 4064 under a 168 308 Win., or 5.3 gr of WW-231 under a 225 gr 45. The list goes on.

If it were absolutely true that a load that shoots good in my guns will not shoot good in your gun, then the bottom would fall out of the Match ammo market. Why does Federal GMM ammo shoot so well in so many different guns? We need to stop perpetuating this myth.

Sure, there may be a gun or two out there that does not like YOUR Match load. There may even be a gun or two that doesn't like Federal GMM. lol. For the most part, good ammo is good ammo. Chances ARE good that my good load will shoot good in your gun too, at least given the similar platforms.

All of you myth-perpetuation individuals sizzle your brain on these thoughts.
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Old November 6, 2012, 03:38 PM   #13
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+1 for Edward429451
100% right
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Old November 6, 2012, 05:19 PM   #14
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Sure, there may be a gun or two out there that does not like YOUR Match load. There may even be a gun or two that doesn't like Federal GMM. lol. For the most part, good ammo is good ammo. Chances ARE good that my good load will shoot good in your gun too, at least given the similar platforms.
There is certainly truth to Edwards statements here. I've always wondered though it isn't more often true of cartridges with a strong competition base where the particulars of things like free-bore and barrel twist rate are closer to being standardized.

In other words, Federal GMM .308 works in most .308s because most .308 are built for that type of ammo. While the same might not be true of, .204 Ruger, for example.

On the other hand, it's undeniable that carefully crafted ammo will almost always be better than generic factory ammo. Still though, carefully crafted ammo that is specific to a guns twist rate and free-bore will probably be better than carefully crafted ammo that's NOT tailored to the gun, if the gun is as I mentioned chambered in a cartridge which has a less standardized setup.
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Old November 6, 2012, 07:24 PM   #15
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TANSTAAFL. There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch.

This modern world is so centered around instant gratification. Ultra fast internet, cell phones so you can be in touch with anybody anytime. They also don't want to do things that may take some time and work. In reloading that includes a magic load for every gun, handed to them on a silver platter.

People look for shortcuts all the time. You simply have to spend the time and components to see what WILL work in your weapon. Or look in several loading manuals for what some will list as the most accurate load they tested.

IN MY EXPERIENCE, I have never had somebody elses pet load work well in one of my guns. Problem is; you can almost NEVER get EXACTLY the same components he was using. Even if you could match everything, they would be from different lot numbers.

An internet load that's checked in a manual to be sure it's NOT over recommended load levels might be a good place to start. Especially if the "what are you going to do with it" matches. As in, for hunting deer, or long range match loads. Good experiences with a particular bullet or a powder that gave a bit more velocity is important info.
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Old November 6, 2012, 08:01 PM   #16
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Favorite loads for me (and none of them are hot) would be as follows in order.

.204 ruger, 25.8 grs Varget, R.P. brass, 45 grn horn s.p. 3400 fps 24"bbl.

.270 win. 130 grn. tsx, 53.5 grns imr4350. R.P. brass 2950 fps 24" bbl

45 acp, 230 grn ball, 4.7 grns bullseye. Any brass. 815 fps 5" kimber

44 mag, 240 grn. any bullet, 18 grns 2400. R.P. brass 1275 fps 9.5" super redhawk.

These are just a few of my loyal loads.

CCI std. primers in all.

I do have warm loads for some of my ruger revolvers but Im not going to post them online. Ever.
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Old November 6, 2012, 09:25 PM   #17
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Well, here's mine:

.357 Magnum:
* Standard paper-punching loads, 7.2gn TiteGroup for 125 JHP's or 7.5gn Herco for Missouri Bullet 140 TCFP's (the latter is my current favorite!)
* Hot loads, 17.2gn 2400 for 125 JHP's (I use this to punch paper also, doubles as an incinerator)
>>>above loads are lit with Federal 200 primers<<<

.40 S&W: 7.5gn Longshot for 180 FMJ's, lit with Federal 100 primers (this load is a bit warm)
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Old November 6, 2012, 10:55 PM   #18
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You make very good points Snuffy, but sort of skirted my point.

People do look for shortcuts. Many times I read about how someone has a new gun and wants a good load or max load and goes to the max load with a slight reduction as a place to start, effectively working the load down and not up. This is not good practice and has certainly been the seed which has lead to the KB of guns, I'm sure. There are manufacturing tolerances in both Guns and Ammo and if one happened to get a bad combination while toying near max, things could get exciting in a hurry. With published or pet loads, I start at the start load, while keeping in mind that around XX grains is probably where things are going to come together nicely.

Because of the fact that it is nigh impossible to exactly duplicate a certain published or pet load, working it up is mandatory. Not having the exact components and expecting the same results as another is wishful thinking. And as Brian noted, to introduce other variable into the equation such as custom chambers & twist rates will widen the gap of reasonable expectation even further.

But for many standard production guns, it's no miracle for a pet load to shoot good in more than one gun. POI may be a little different but grouping will be on par. I've had very good luck with my let loads (usually cast) shooting as good in other peoples (standard) guns as they do mine. To a certain extent even different boolits but of the same weight. Good ammo is good ammo.
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Old November 7, 2012, 03:41 PM   #19
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for glock 20, 10mm auto

180gr sierra JHC
7,5gr autocomp
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Old November 7, 2012, 06:45 PM   #20
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.45 ACP

Bullet Type
"Bear Creek" Polymer Coated Lead / 230 gr RN

Bullet Length
.670"

Cartridge Overall Length
1.24"

Primer
Winchester WSP

Powder Brand
Winchester 231

Powder Load
5.1 gr

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Old November 7, 2012, 07:01 PM   #21
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Snuffy's right. It's much like talking about good pick-up lines for women; what works for me one time isn't likely to help others, nor work me for other gals even if they have the same hair color. If it does work well it's just pure chance, no better than throwing a dart at a loading book.

I've been reloading a long time, plenty long enough to know it may be interesting to see someone elses 'pet loads' and I see how much fun some have in sharing pet loads but I know the goal is basically a hopeful exersize in futility! I don't have any interest in someone else's pet loads and hate to share mine because mine are much more likely to put others going the wrong way rather than the right way.

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Old November 7, 2012, 07:04 PM   #22
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.357
Hornady 158 LSWC
coated with liquid alox
.360" X .060" vegetable fiber wad at the base of the bullet
5 grains of Universal.

Super clean burning, no smoke, no soot, no leading (ever). Accurate in all of my .357's.
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Old November 8, 2012, 02:01 PM   #23
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You two guys have to ask yourselves a couple things...
First is: what am I expecting from -MY- handloads?
Second is: what are folks hoping to gain from this thread?

First question... especially with handgun rounds is brother, it just ain't all that damn tough to make one that works... well, even, especially when AGAIN, we get down to our expectations. Sure, everyone would love a dream world where they can feed any gun a particular concoction that makes it a laser-like tack driver where no shot will -EVER- deviate from dead-nuts center. But a lot of us are looking for a load in one caliber that runs well in many of our handguns and I've managed to do it, so I don't understand why someone else who has posted a load on here might not stumble across one. If I can make a 9mm handload that performs PLENTY good enough for knocking down steel plates and having fun and my load works in FIVE different 9mm pistols that I own, is there sufficient reason to believe that perhaps it might work in someone else's 9mm pistol?

So maybe it's not a 50 yard Bullseye competition load. Maybe it's not the load you use to be the first maniac to chase down African Elephant and snub with an ear shot with a Glock 19.

But it works and to address question number two... if someone has never loaded a round of 9mm before in their lives, they can look at this thread and say,
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"HEY! Here's a load that works for this guy. I'll reduce that 5 or 10% and see if I can work it up and maybe it'll be a good place for ME to start?! Afterall, this load manual here and the two other manuals I have show me 57 loads with 12 different slugs...but I happen to have similar slugs to Sevens' loads and I have 2 pounds of Universal on hand. I think maybe I'll try it."
I've tried different loads that have been posted right here on this forum by our guys. I've discussed some loads and load ranges with folks from this forum through e-mail and worked loads from that information.

I don't think anyone expects the "holy grail" load to be posted here, some load that nobody ever thought of before that turns any firearm in to a death-ray instantly and rises above every other handloaded round ever concocted.

I recently got a buddy started in handloading. He doesn't hang out in gun forums, so he was looking over the manual & data sources I directed him to find & purchase. Still, he was jaw-dropped at where to start and how to understand the differences in the 50 different loads he was staring at. (.357 Magnum... you could say there are some options...) So I pointed him toward a bullet, powder and primer that I like, and a charge weight to begin at.

That's not much different than posting "favorite loads" in a discussion thread.

You opposition to people chatting up relevant handloading topics is duly noted, but you ought to consider a view that's a wee bit wider than the tunnel-vision that continue to push about the "value" in someone else's load.

Someone else's load as posted in a thread is a fine nugget of evidence of something that they claim works for them. You can read it -- double or triple check it's validity across some published sources, and then use it as a load to work toward (or beyond!) and see if it works for you.
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Old November 8, 2012, 06:47 PM   #24
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My favorite load is one I have for my 7mm RM.

IMR4350 57gr
CCI LRMP
Win case trim to 2.491
Hornady 139gr BTSP Interlock
Measure to Ogive 2.706
OAL 3.290

This round gets me consistently within the .500"-.575" spread range. Which is all I need to deer hunt with.
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Old November 8, 2012, 08:19 PM   #25
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Turbo6ta- About 3/4 of the Internet is cussing because they've run into the small-primer .45s. Am I to understand you've chosen to seek them out and load them as the usual case?
I've shot quite a few of them over the chrono screens, with different powders and charges, and primers, including the WSPs you use. I've used them with 230LRNs and 160LRNs and compared them with large-primer cases with many different brands of primers.
I really like your Gold Cup... The only reason I traded away for a new competition gun was I found a gun with a larger magazine, and the mag-release on the right side.
Have fun,
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