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Old November 2, 2012, 10:48 AM   #1
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New bolt/info for beginner

Hello,I have a few questions I'd like to ask.I am looking into getting a bolt action and want to know about a few calibers and some info/recommends for a good rifle for a beginner.I have done a bunch of research into it but want to gain some more info from some forum folks first.
Cal.-.223,.243.270,308,30-06.,7.62/any variant
What can you tell/send links about these calibers that would be ok/good/cost effective for a beginner for range/target/just plain plinking?
Please list,link your opinions on some preferred rifles.I like to customize so please take that into consideration.The most I want spend would be say 8-900 total including add ons if possible.Getting smith work done is something I'll think about just not now.Thanks for your help/advice.I have a couple of pistols so I'm not completely new to firearms just want to get into the ranged stuff now.
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Old November 2, 2012, 11:08 AM   #2
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.223 is easily the cheapest to shoot. A Remington 700 is probably has the most aftermarket accessories available. You didn't mention hunting so a .223 sounds like the gun for you to send rounds downrange without breaking the bank. Check out Remington's site for different options on set up and barrel length. I personally recommend the 700 SPS Tactical. It's a neat rifle available in .223 and mine was a real shooter. Look at all the options, and, whatever you buy, put a good glass on it.
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Old November 2, 2012, 01:54 PM   #3
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So could I get a Remington 700 SPS Tactical 308win and shoot 762 through it in a pinch.Do you think this one is too much or how about firing 5.56 thorough a 223?

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Old November 2, 2012, 03:26 PM   #4
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I think that you would be fine shooting their military counter parts.
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Old November 2, 2012, 05:05 PM   #5
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I think what I am looking for is a target/plinking/wrol-shtf.Than would pretty much describe it.I do want to have a good time at the range and be able to buy bulk without going into foreclosure doing so.I guess that sums it all up.I don't think I'd have any "encounters"beyond 3-400 yards in my neck of the woods anyway if that helps.Realistically I don't even see that,but that's adding a little extra..So something effective out to that would be fine.Thanks for the help.This is one I was looking at.Remington 700 SPS TACT AAC-SD 308
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Old November 2, 2012, 05:41 PM   #6
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The tactical aac is a fine rifle. 223 is very cheap and effective. I would however buy the 308 that way if you ever wanted to pursue big game with it you would be well suited for anything including elk sized game.
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Old November 2, 2012, 07:46 PM   #7
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.308 is a good round. The 700 Tactical I mentioned I had was in .308. The only drawback is that it costs more to feed than a .223. I won't make a recommendation on shooting 5.56 NATO in a .223 or 7.62 NATO in .308 as there seems to be some debate on this, however it has been done.
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Old November 3, 2012, 12:57 AM   #8
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The 223 will be perfect for what you are descibing . The 223 round is a third of the cost of a 308 and the recoil is a lot less with the 223 then the 308 . That makes for a longer more enjoyable trip to the range .

As for the rifle ? I would get something with a heavy barrel .
Remington 700 tac
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Howa 1500 heavy barrel
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Old November 4, 2012, 02:28 AM   #9
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Marlin X7-VH in .308, .223 or .22-250 heavy barrel...
Sub-MOA .308 for around $360 at Bud's Gun Shop...
http://www.marlinfirearms.com/Firear...ction/x7vh.asp

.22-250 at less than $325!!
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/2-MARX7-22-250

Initial offering in three calibers...more planned for 2013...
yeah, I know the webpage forgot .223, their computer-fu is lacking...lol
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Old November 4, 2012, 03:47 AM   #10
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I don't know what sort of range you want to practice shooting at, but if your going to mainly practice at 100-200 yards, consider a bolt action .17 HMR. 50 rounds cost 11-13 dollars so its cheaper to shoot than .223.

I purchased a Marlin 917v for $230 and any varmint around here within 150 yards of the end of its barrel is as good as dead.

Just a thought though, you might want something with more kick. I think the .17 would make a great trainer for practicing shooting less than 250 yards.
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Old November 4, 2012, 10:08 AM   #11
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Thanks for the info guys.It really helps when you get responses that don't chastise the new for well being new.I was looking at a mini 14 in 556,that was one reason I may not be looking at a bolt in 223 .At the same time now that I think about it.It may make sense to because I'll have the ammo already.Looking at what I have posted and the responses,I can defiantly say.I want a bolt that will shoot reasonably accurate out to 400yrds max with the opinion of buying bulk ammo if I so choose that won't put me several months behind on rent to do so.I'll check out your posted links and a big Thanks again! Out of curiosity what could you do with different factor loads and/or bullet weights?Could you get more similar results going that way then having to look for 22-250 and have it more readily available.Then when money is better get say a 308 when you want to really reach out.

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Old November 4, 2012, 09:51 PM   #12
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As far as bullet choice, there is a relationship between the weight of the projectile and the speed it will travel. Heavier bullets travel slower than lighter bullets behind the same type and amount of powder. Heavier bullets are less prone to wind deflection.

On the topic of .223 vs .22-250 you will get much less drop from the .22-250. Sighted in at 100 yards, the a 50 grain .22 bullet fired from a .22-250 traveling 3800fps at muzzle should be expected to drop 18.5 inches at 400 yards.

A 55 grain bullet fired from a .223 exiting muzzel with a velocity of 3200 fps will drop around 32 inches at 400 yards when sighted in at 100 yards.

Other variables come into play, but the nice thing about it is that the trajectories can be easily calculated when you know enough of the variables. There are calculators on the internet and even apps for your phone to calculate ballistic trajectories.

http://gundata.org/ballistic-calculator/
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