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Old October 31, 2012, 09:53 AM   #1
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Power bond bullets

I just got my order in from power bond bullets. Very fast turn around, ordered Sunday night, got em today. My question is, they are 165 FMJ, what is a good low end recipe to start out with ? I'm using Winchester 231 powder. I looked at hodgdon web site but I'm not sure where to start with this bullet.
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Old October 31, 2012, 10:13 AM   #2
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Just to clarify, what cartridge are you loading?
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Old October 31, 2012, 10:16 AM   #3
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Sorry about that , 40 S&W. I think it's 4.8 to 5.3 just not positive about it .
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Old October 31, 2012, 11:25 AM   #4
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Please take a look at the lower left of this page. If this is your source, you will see that these bullets are in fact plated as opposed to FMJ. http://powerbondbullets.com/about.html

If so, I would compare the bullets to lead in reloading them. As a general rule when loading plated bullets, you should use the same loading data as a cast bullet. I believe the load data you shared is for a jacketed 165g Sierra bullet.

I would consider dropping back on the low charge and start under the 4.8g of 231 noted. How much is the question? That I cant help with.

YMMV
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Old October 31, 2012, 11:38 AM   #5
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Lee 2nd ed. lists a 170gr lead bullet load starting at 4.0 and maxing at 5.2 of 231 .... With 165gr plated, I'd not go that low (4.0) ..... I'd start with 4.5.
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Old October 31, 2012, 05:28 PM   #6
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Thanks for the heads up on the bullits being plated. I will start with 4.5 and go from there.
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Old October 31, 2012, 08:00 PM   #7
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+1 on jimbob's suggestion. dont go too low w/ the 40. 10% lower would be the suggestion. I would go with 4.4 - 4.5 and see how they do. I have 500 powerbond 230g 45 to load up in the near future. please post up on your experience with your load work up.
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Old October 31, 2012, 09:51 PM   #8
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Thanks J357, I will load a few and try to get to the range with them this weekend. Thanks guys for all your help.
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Old November 2, 2012, 03:37 AM   #9
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165 gr 40S&W Montana Gold FMJ/JHP with 5.0 gr of W231/HP-38 makes a good target load.

I have used Berry's, HSM, Rainier, PowerBond, Speer TMJ and X-Treme plated bullets and IMO, Sierra TMJ seems to have the thickest plating followed by Berry's TP/PowerBond/X-Treme.

I have used 4.8 - 5.0 gr of W231/HP-38 with PowerBond 165 gr RNFP at 1.125" OAL with good results. I referenced 1999 Winchester lead load data and current Hodgdon jacketed load data.
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165 gr Sierra JHP W231/HP-38 OAL 1.125" Start 4.8 gr (946 fps) 28,100 PSI - Max 5.3 gr (1001 fps) 32,500 PSI
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