M1 Garand - Page 2

MLeake · October 28, 2012, 06:25 PM

Theohazard, I understand your point. For what it's worth, I even agree with it on the one hand. But on the other, it isn't technically proper, and I understand Old Grump's issue with it. If the OP had responded to Old Grump in the respectful manner in which he responded to you and me, I would not have said anything.

I appreciate the OP's good intentions, and his artistic setup. I don't appreciate him taking the tone he did with Old Grump about an honest (and technically correct) criticism.

straight-shooter · October 28, 2012, 06:36 PM

Fair enough and my apologies to Old Grump... Heat of the moment statement on my part that i'm willing to man up to and respectfully take back. I realize Old Grump is a pillar in good standing here and rightfully so.

straight-shooter · October 28, 2012, 07:34 PM

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kraigwy · October 28, 2012, 07:46 PM

Personally I think displaying the Flag w/the M1 is classic.

What more then the two represent the American Soldier. Both are classics, One of a Kind.

Now if it had been an AK or SKS, I'd probably through a Hissy Fit myself.

MLeake · October 28, 2012, 08:02 PM

kraigwy, I think Old Grump's issue was not the combination of flag and rifle, it was that the flag appeared to be laid out on a platform of some sort, with the rifle resting on it.

I think Grump would have been fine with it, if the flag had been hung, and the rifle on a stand or similar in front of the flag.

When I first saw the photo, I liked the composition and effect. When I read Old Grump's criticism, I understood what (I think) he meant, and realized he had a point.

Meanwhile, I'm happy with straight-shooter's recent post, where he recognized and recanted his harsh tone. And, like I said, I like the composition and the rifle. And I don't think he realized that anybody might take issue, nor that he meant to offend in any way.

Old Grump · October 28, 2012, 08:32 PM

If the flag had been hung on the wall with the field to the left per protocol and you displayed the rifle on a rack in front of it I would have approved very much. This trend to wearing clothing made up of the flag or Athletes dragging a holiday sized flag on the ground behind them to celebrate their victory takes away any glory those talented but ignorant bastards had earned when they treated the flag like a rug. If they cannot treat the flag with the respect it deserves then they should keep their sweaty little hands off of it.

A flag patch or pin on your hat or coat or shirt yes but a coat or shirt or blouse made from a flag make me very uncomfortable and flashes me right back to draft card and flag burning by the unwashed dopers and freaks supported so vigorously by the Democratic Left. Now we have a resident in the White House who is loath to honor the flag and this makes me even more upset and while I know you intentions were good the methodology was wrong and easily correctable.

straight-shooter · October 30, 2012, 06:11 PM

Just for you Old Grump, i've changed the theme of representing an American icon, the M1 Garand. I still feel that the flag was quite fitting but anywho...

Old Grump · October 31, 2012, 10:58 PM

Thank you and that is a fine looking gun, now post some targets.

tahunua001 · November 1, 2012, 01:03 AM

maybe when I get my M1 I'll post all my medals with it and see how PO'd some old salts get

MJ1 · November 1, 2012, 11:53 AM

Can we get over this and move on?

Old Grump · November 1, 2012, 02:37 PM

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maybe when I get my M1 I'll post all my medals with it and see how PO'd some old salts get

The more the merrier, make sure to include targets and trophies too. Maybe you can make a trophy thread for M1 shooters only.

October 28, 2012, 07:46 PM	#29
kraigwy Senior Member Join Date: June 16, 2008 Location: Wyoming Posts: 8,612	Personally I think displaying the Flag w/the M1 is classic. What more then the two represent the American Soldier. Both are classics, One of a Kind. Now if it had been an AK or SKS, I'd probably through a Hissy Fit myself. __________________ Kraig Stuart CPT USAR Ret USAMU Sniper School Oct '78 Distinguished Rifle Badge 1071

October 28, 2012, 08:32 PM	#31
Old Grump Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in a little hut in the woods Posts: 3,126	If the flag had been hung on the wall with the field to the left per protocol and you displayed the rifle on a rack in front of it I would have approved very much. This trend to wearing clothing made up of the flag or Athletes dragging a holiday sized flag on the ground behind them to celebrate their victory takes away any glory those talented but ignorant bastards had earned when they treated the flag like a rug. If they cannot treat the flag with the respect it deserves then they should keep their sweaty little hands off of it. A flag patch or pin on your hat or coat or shirt yes but a coat or shirt or blouse made from a flag make me very uncomfortable and flashes me right back to draft card and flag burning by the unwashed dopers and freaks supported so vigorously by the Democratic Left. Now we have a resident in the White House who is loath to honor the flag and this makes me even more upset and while I know you intentions were good the methodology was wrong and easily correctable. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

October 31, 2012, 10:58 PM	#33
Old Grump Senior Member Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in a little hut in the woods Posts: 3,126	Thank you and that is a fine looking gun, now post some targets. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

November 1, 2012, 01:03 AM	#34
tahunua001 Senior Member Join Date: July 21, 2011 Location: Idaho Posts: 3,609	maybe when I get my M1 I'll post all my medals with it and see how PO'd some old salts get __________________ all guns lost in a tragic smelting accident. I never said half the crap people said I did-Albert Einstein You can't believe everything you read on the internet-Benjamin Franklin Bean counters told me I couldn't fire a man for being in a wheelchair, did it anyway. Ramps are expensive.-Cave Johnson.

November 1, 2012, 11:53 AM	#35
MJ1 Senior Member Join Date: August 10, 2008 Posts: 308	;) Can we get over this and move on? __________________ "Peace is that brief glorious moment in history when everybody stands around reloading" --Unknown Soldier-- Bravery is being the only one who knows you're afraid. - David Hackworth - Last edited by MJ1; November 1, 2012 at 07:36 PM.

October 28, 2012, 06:25 PM	#26
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 9,662	Theohazard, I understand your point. For what it's worth, I even agree with it on the one hand. But on the other, it isn't technically proper, and I understand Old Grump's issue with it. If the OP had responded to Old Grump in the respectful manner in which he responded to you and me, I would not have said anything. I appreciate the OP's good intentions, and his artistic setup. I don't appreciate him taking the tone he did with Old Grump about an honest (and technically correct) criticism.

October 28, 2012, 06:36 PM	#27
straight-shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: South Bend, Indiana Posts: 232	Fair enough and my apologies to Old Grump... Heat of the moment statement on my part that i'm willing to man up to and respectfully take back. I realize Old Grump is a pillar in good standing here and rightfully so.

October 28, 2012, 07:34 PM	#28
straight-shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: South Bend, Indiana Posts: 232	..

October 28, 2012, 08:02 PM	#30
MLeake Senior Member Join Date: November 15, 2007 Location: Outside KC, MO Posts: 9,662	kraigwy, I think Old Grump's issue was not the combination of flag and rifle, it was that the flag appeared to be laid out on a platform of some sort, with the rifle resting on it. I think Grump would have been fine with it, if the flag had been hung, and the rifle on a stand or similar in front of the flag. When I first saw the photo, I liked the composition and effect. When I read Old Grump's criticism, I understood what (I think) he meant, and realized he had a point. Meanwhile, I'm happy with straight-shooter's recent post, where he recognized and recanted his harsh tone. And, like I said, I like the composition and the rifle. And I don't think he realized that anybody might take issue, nor that he meant to offend in any way.

October 30, 2012, 06:11 PM	#32
straight-shooter Senior Member Join Date: June 12, 2007 Location: South Bend, Indiana Posts: 232	Just for you Old Grump, i've changed the theme of representing an American icon, the M1 Garand. I still feel that the flag was quite fitting but anywho...