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Old October 23, 2012, 06:08 PM   #1
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.35 Remington Loads

I just picked up a Marlin 336 (Manufactured 1971) in .35 Remington and am trying to get an idea what powder to use. I'm thinking the Sierra Pro-Hunter 200gr Round Nose (I've always had good luck with Sierra bullets) and a CCI primer. The only rifle powders I have on hand are IMR 4320, IMR 4350 and H335. I wouldn't be opposed to buying a new powder but I'd hate to buy a pound of it to find out it's not going to shoot well so I figured I'd put it out there to you guys. What's your favorite powder in the .35 Remington, something not very temperature sensitive would be a bonus.

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Old October 23, 2012, 07:46 PM   #2
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I used to use IMR 4064 and 200 grain bullets (Hornady, I think). I can look up the specifics of the load if you wish, but it might not be the one that works best in your rifle.
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Old October 23, 2012, 08:54 PM   #3
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This year I inherited a Marlin 336 in .35 Remington; however, I have not yet begun loading for it. Mine is an early '70s as well. I have been considering a load replicating the Hornaday leverevolution ammo that reports say is awesome. I'm looking forward to shooting and loading for it. Good luck and shoot straight.
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Old October 24, 2012, 05:17 AM   #4
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I can not help with those powders...

All I use in my .35 Rem is IMR-3031 for full power, and Red Dot for reduced loads...
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Old October 24, 2012, 08:10 AM   #5
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If you have any failure to fire you might want to try W-W or FC primers, my Marlin 30/30 hammer spring doesnt deliver enough force/energy to ignite CCI primers 100% of the time. IMR3031 should be a good choice, I note you have 335 powder, I wouldn't use it because it's double base and a bit harder to ignite.. William
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Old October 24, 2012, 08:19 AM   #6
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I have manuals listing both IMR-4320 and H-335 with bullets running from 180 to 220 grains. So, I would think you could try those two powders that you already have.

For the Sierra 200 grain bullet, QuickLOAD seems to think that H-335 will give near the best velocity (with loads in the 35,000 to 40,000 psi range), but with only about 90% of the powder being burned in a 20" barrel. QuickLOAD indicates that IMR-4320 is less suitable, with substantially less velocity and only about 80% of the powder burned.

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Old October 24, 2012, 12:01 PM   #7
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For add'l data on .35 Remington as used in Marlin's 336, you might try the Marlin Owners forum. One contributer, (35 Remington) has done extensive research on powders and bullets...and expansion out to 200 yds with pictures. He's a font of knowledge on all things .35 Reminton in the 336.

For light firing pin strikes, even from an absolutely clean, oil free firing pin race, I'd recommend one of the one piece firing pin replacements...again over on the Marlin Owner's site. It's cured mine in .35 Reminton. Light firing pin falls may also be an indicator that you are in fact setting the shoulder back too far as you resize the case.

As to powders and bullets...my best accuracy is with the Remington Core Lok bullet at 200 grs. 2nd best was the 200 gr Hornady bullet (RN). The Leverevolution bullet (rubber nose), came in third. From my tweaked and bedded 336, I can get three shot gps into 2" at 100 yds, with a scope off a rest. For best expansion, 35 Reminton (the poster's name), had the best luck out to 200 yds with Remington's 200 gr. RN Core Lok.

I've had good luck with 4064, 3031 and 2520, in about that order. I used as light a crimp as possible and still keep bullets from setting back in the magazine during recoil. Too, it's important to beware of that skinny minimal case shoulder, as it's easy to set it back inducing a head space problem. Light firing pin falls may be an indicator that you are in fact setting the shoulder back too far. I load mine so as to feel a slight touch as the round chambers from the magazine.

Sorry for the above emphasis items regarding shoulder set back, but it's very easy to do...

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Old October 24, 2012, 12:44 PM   #8
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I've found aa2230 to be very accurate with Sierra 200 rn. I typically get 1.25in groups in my 336 with. 2.75x scope and a heavy trigger.
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Old October 25, 2012, 12:51 PM   #9
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Agree with William T. Watts

The .35 Rem/Marlin 336 can present some problems with failures to fire. While "setting the shoulder back" is often blamed, I too have found that the 336 prefers soft primers such as Federals rather than hard primers, designed to prevent slam fires in semi-autos. Also, I uniform the primer pockets using a Sinclair primer pocket uniformer to insure full and proper primer seating. Marlins may not fire with high primers and the best way to avoid them is to use the uniformer chucked in a cordless drill. You can whip through twenty cases in about 30 seconds.

I've used IMR 4320 in my 336 with good results. Considering the high cost of powder, I try to buy powders that can be also be used in my other calibers including .30-06, .308, .243 and 7mm-08.
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Old October 25, 2012, 06:46 PM   #10
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Thanks for the replies guys, I am not opposed to buying a new powder I just didn't want to go out and buy a pound of something only to find out it doesn't perform well. So all opinions in the matter are appreciated.

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As to powders and bullets...my best accuracy is with the Remington Core Lok bullet at 200 grs. 2nd best was the 200 gr Hornady bullet (RN). The Leverevolution bullet (rubber nose), came in third. From my tweaked and bedded 336, I can get three shot gps into 2" at 100 yds, with a scope off a rest. For best expansion, 35 Reminton (the poster's name), had the best luck out to 200 yds with Remington's 200 gr. RN Core Lok.
This mimics my testing with factory ammo also. I fired 3 different ammos today and got my best result with the 200gr Core-Lokt. I really expect the Leverevolution ammo to perform better after all I had heard about it.

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Old October 25, 2012, 06:50 PM   #11
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I never had a problem with my old 35. I just full length sized (RCBS dies) and went from there. It fired every time. It was a fine deer rifle, but a bit limited in range. I was good to 150 yards, with a max distance shot of about 250 on a small buck. I used it for many years, and I really think that is the cause of some later year misses with my 270. In my mind I still have hold-over thoughts of the 35 and I really do tend to shoot high if I have to hurry.
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Old October 25, 2012, 09:25 PM   #12
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The failure to fire problem with Marlin 336's is not confined to the .35 Remington...the .30-30's and .32 Specials suffer from it as well...not all of 'em, but enough that it gets some attention on the Marlin Owner's site. Those guys have come up with a cpl fixes, ones that I use with both of my Marlins:

1. Keep the firing pin race in the bolt super clean (no oil whatsoever), and ...
2. I've replaced the two piece Marlin factory firing pin with a single piece piece pin...problem solved.

That two piece firing pin, while a safety feature in the eyes of a design engineer and probably with the lawyer crowd...cushions the hammer blow...a little oil, some powder residue, a smidge under in headspace, and you've got a FTF. Check some of your fired brass, even the ones that fired on the first try...bet you find some with a light, shallow pin imprint.

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Old October 31, 2012, 07:46 PM   #13
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H335 WORKS VARY WELL FOR ME AND A 180 gr SPEER FN BULLET.
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Old October 31, 2012, 07:56 PM   #14
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H335 WORKS VARY WELL FOR ME AND A 180 gr SPEER FN BULLET.
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