October 18, 2012, 06:02 PM | #1 |
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Identifying enfield
Need some help identifying and putting a value on this rifle please.
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October 18, 2012, 06:08 PM | #2 |
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I believe those markings indicate the rifle received a "factory thorough repair" (FTR) at ROF Fazakerley (F), can't help beyond that. Usually the year of the repair is stamped too, I think.
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October 18, 2012, 06:39 PM | #3 |
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What would you pay for this?
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October 18, 2012, 06:50 PM | #4 |
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It would probably fetch a lot more where I am than where you are mate (assuming you are in N America), expensive in the UK these days.
I wouldn't think those pictures offer enough detail for someone qualified to offer a price, need to inspect the bore, headspacing etc . . . however I really wouldn't be qualified to put a price on it even if it was sitting in front of me. There is plenty of knowledge about Enfields on here, hopefully someone else who knows more will chime in. |
October 18, 2012, 08:01 PM | #5 |
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I'm not looking for a 100% accurate price, but more so is it a 200-300 rifle or a 700+
Buying from a family member so I don't want to rip him off. From my googling it looks like anywhere from 150-300...but some models go for a lot more. |
October 18, 2012, 08:45 PM | #6 |
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I bought FTR's for $100 back in the 80's. A WW2 action, FTR, factory through repair (F), Fazakerley. Your rifle should have a new barrel, I see it has the post war rear, probably a nice finish, but it is a rebuild and not rare.
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October 18, 2012, 09:00 PM | #7 |
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Fair enough, thank you!
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October 19, 2012, 06:26 PM | #8 |
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I would search Gunbroker for completed auctions, look for ones that actually sold to get a reasonable market price.
I would think that would be a ~$250 rifle. Probably a pretty good shooter. |
October 20, 2012, 07:05 AM | #9 |
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The base model is a late 1942 to early 1943 Long Branch No4 MkI* (*=wartime expedient bolt release)
The /53 No4 MkI/3 (F) FTR means in 1953 it was converted to the MkII trigger style and received a complete rebuild at the Fazakerely facility. The MkI when converted is changed to a MkI/2 The MkI* is changed to a MkI/3 These LB 1/3's are relatively rare and $300 would be a fair price. I have seen them go for over $500. I have a almost identical LB with the 53 1/3 FTR. This LB has had every part except the receiver replaced at FTR, bolt, barrel and all furniture. Only the Savage and Long Branch No4's can be a MkI/3. These are less than 5% of the No4's on the market. Someone has unloaded a small number of these 1953 FTR's I have seen more of these in the past 10-12 months than the previous 10 years. I have a collection of about forty No4's and only one is a LB 1/3, still seeking a Savage 1/3. Last edited by madcratebuilder; October 20, 2012 at 07:17 AM. |
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I've been told by a collector of British rifles that FTR stands for Factory Thorough Refit. Basically it's what we would call an arsenal rebuild in which a used gun is reconditioned to almost as new status.
Prices on British rifles have been creeping up quite a bit the last few years (same with most guns) and, as always, are HIGHLY regional. In Northern Virginia I'd expect to see that rifle priced between $400 and $600 on the table of a dealer who knows exactly what he has.
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Really old news. Read the statement. For a layman, someone not familiar with the No4, using the term "Factory Through Repair" does not tell them much. In this case the 1/3 FTR was just as I stated, a trigger refit and clean and rebuild. I've been working on too many "03's and I'm stuck in usgi terminology. Cheers |
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