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Old October 13, 2012, 05:58 PM   #1
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I want to start reloading .223/5.56 Need your opinon.

I am becoming more and more interested in guns and such. I have about 3,000 rounds for my AR and I would like to start reloading. I am going to read the ABC's of reloading, but I want you to go over everything I need. here is what i have put together. Please give advice where you wish. Thanks!

http://www.midwayusa.com/product/423...nniversary-kit
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/165...-bulk-packaged
http://www.midwayusa.com/product/456...-223-remington

The primers and powder I would purchase at a local gun store to avoid the hazmat fees. Please let me know what else I need to purchase other than a manual. Do you need to lube .223 cases? Do you need to trim the cases? Please advise as I would like to put an order in for all of the stuff I need by the end of the month. Thanks
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Old October 13, 2012, 06:05 PM   #2
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I forgot to add that I would want to reload 9mm for cost sakes, if It can be done cheaper than 20 cents a round.
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Old October 13, 2012, 06:27 PM   #3
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That's the wrong die. You need a sizing die and a bullet-seating die (they're sold as a set), you don't really need a crimp die.

Yes you need to lube the cases, and you need to trim them after you size them. Dillon spray lube works good, so does applying Kiwi Mink Oil (shoe dressing) lightly with your fingers.
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Old October 13, 2012, 06:29 PM   #4
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Thank you. Like these http://www.midwayusa.com/product/554...-223-remington
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Old October 13, 2012, 06:32 PM   #5
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Lots of us who just started reloading 223 here on the forum, our threads should be on the 1st or 2nd page. I'm using the Lee Classic Turret press kit. Main thing is take your time, do tons of research....and buy Lyman #49

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Old October 13, 2012, 07:45 PM   #6
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The Lee "RGB" die set is the one I use. You'll also need a shellholder because that set doesn't come with one.
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Old October 13, 2012, 08:14 PM   #7
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Thanks guys keep em coming
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Old October 13, 2012, 08:52 PM   #8
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Siska- Is that what a tumbler would be used for? Im putting together an order at midway. This is what I have so far. Please let me know what else I need.


Lee Case Length Gage and Shellholder 223 Remington
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MTM Flip-Top Ammo Box 17 Remington, 204 Ruger, 223 Remington 100-Round Plastic Clear-Blue
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Lyman "Reloading Handbook: 49th Edition" Reloading Manual Softcover
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Old October 13, 2012, 09:30 PM   #9
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I highly recommend Dillon spray lube instead of Hornady One-Shot. I've heard too many horror stories of stuck cases (never actually tried it myself.) The Dillon lube is cheaper to use too.

You also only have half a trimmer, and no shellholder yet.
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Old October 13, 2012, 09:30 PM   #10
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Thank you. I will make that change
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Old October 13, 2012, 09:37 PM   #11
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Are the cases trimmed by the press or by hand?
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Old October 13, 2012, 09:47 PM   #12
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Ya, but no.

If you want the Lee dies, get the three die set that comes with the Lee Factory Crimp die. http://www.midwayusa.com/product/434...-223-remington
It is a great crimp die if you ever want to crimp for your AR. I personally crimp all my semi-auto ammo with the Lee Factory crimp die.
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Old October 13, 2012, 09:51 PM   #13
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Okay thanks. Should I get something to remove crimps as well?
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Old October 13, 2012, 09:59 PM   #14
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Okay thanks. Should I get something to remove crimps as well?
Yes, but removing crimps is a Primer pocket crimp not a case mouth crimp. Opposite ends of the case.
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Old October 13, 2012, 10:04 PM   #15
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Okay great. So you don't have to remove the crimp where the bullet is? But the crimp where the primer is needs to be removed. What is your opinion on tumblers for removing lube?
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Old October 13, 2012, 10:08 PM   #16
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The chamfer tool will remove crimps? The one that comes with the kit? Thanks again
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Old October 13, 2012, 10:11 PM   #17
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Before you buy anything, goto the public library and see if they have a copy of Lyman's 48th Reloading Guide (or 49th) Read it through and it will answer a *lot* of your questions.

That 3 die set looks like a good deal. You might never use the crimp die, but if you want to try it you'll have it. And it has a shellholder.
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Old October 14, 2012, 12:11 AM   #18
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Ill stop by tomorrow if they are open. thanks
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Old October 14, 2012, 12:23 AM   #19
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Don't get too ahead of yourself. The Lee presses are excellent choices for beginner. Highly recommend you look into the classic turret press.

Befor you google that buy yourself a manual. Lyman 49th in my opinion is better for load data than step by step instructions. For you, since your considering Lee gear get Modern Reloading 2nd edition by Richard Lee. It is very in depth in the step by step process and what each variable in the process means to the finished round. Lee toots his own horn a bit too much through out the book in my opinion (it is his book after all) but if you get past that he has got valuable information on the ins and outs of reloading.

Before you buy anything now, buy a (both if u can) manual, read up and then get ready to burn a hole in your credit card
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Old October 14, 2012, 12:29 AM   #20
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Haha alrighty I will get myself some manuals. I appreciate all of the help guys
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Old October 14, 2012, 12:30 AM   #21
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I just noticed that the "Anniversary Kit" has the cutter and lock stud parts of the the case trimmer. Disregard what I said about only having half a trimmer.
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Old October 30, 2012, 03:19 PM   #22
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Just my experience. I had jamming problems with my AR at first. It was a case sizing issue. i was using the Lee dies for sizing. They would cycle fine but if I had to manually eject a round I had to really get rough on the charging handle to get it out.

Turns out that no matter how i adjusted the die it would size the cases properly. Ended up getting a redding die and everything is gravy now. Everything else stayed Lee. Your biggest problem will likely be sizing when it comes to the AR. It can be a bear. Especially if you have a rifel made by a high quality manufacture like Colt or Daniel Defense where the chambers tend to be a little tighter on the specs.

I use the Lee turret press as well. I range from .284" -.52" groups with the 77SMK out of my pencil chrome lined 16" barrel Colt 6520. A press is a press in by book. The process is more important

The Lyman is a great manual. The only one I use. Great illustration of case dimension specs
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Old October 31, 2012, 12:27 AM   #23
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Lube them well!!!

The big lesson I learned when I started reloading 223 was to LUBE THE CASES!
Up to that point I'd only done straight handgun rounds with no shoulders to the case. They did fine with no case lube. Within the first ten 223 cases I had one so stuck in the sizing die that . . . . well let's just say it was a royal pain to get out.

Live well, be safe . . . lube the cases.
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Old October 31, 2012, 01:03 PM   #24
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At some point you might want to look into using Hodgon's CFE 223 powder-- one of the new miracle powders that actually works as advertised--and in some cases better than advertised.
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Old October 31, 2012, 01:27 PM   #25
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I forgot to add that I would want to reload 9mm for cost sakes, if It can be done cheaper than 20 cents a round.
Buying bullets in BULK


https://www.montanagoldbullet.com/pricelist.html

using range pickup brass, primers in bulk, and powder in kegs, you can reload 9mm 115gr FMJ for 12-13 cents a round.
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