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Old October 16, 2012, 07:50 PM   #51
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^^^I don't think Vespasian meant he is disenchanted with the .380acp.

Just anything 'larger' then the .380acp.

For me, even though the .380 has come a long way over the years, so has the 9mm. Given the fact of the ridiculous price's they're getting for .380 SD ammo versus 9mm SD ammo, and that there are some very concealable 9mm pistols that are very close to .380 pistol dimension's, it amazes me we've seen the .380 craze we've seen in the last 3-4yrs.
Course, some of these very small 9mm's have just recently been produced in the last couple years.

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Old October 16, 2012, 08:02 PM   #52
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I gave up on .40S&W several years ago. I owned at least a half-dozen .40s, but never really found any of them indispensible.

About the same time, I gave up on .44 (Mag and Spl)--ammo too expensive, and since I don't live in big bear country...

Both of these decisions were made before I started handloading.,,but since that time, I have not been compelled to return to either.

These days, for revolvers, I own/load/shoot .357 Mag amd .41 Mag...and .45LC.

For semi autos, I load .45 acp and 10mm. I am set up to load 9mm, but shoot so little 9mm that I have not bothered.
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Old October 16, 2012, 08:06 PM   #53
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^^^I don't think Vespasian meant he is disenchanted with the .380acp.

Just anything larger.
Shortwave,

That's precisely the way I interpreted it (why not appreciate anything "bigger" than a .380).

Sorry if I was ambiguous.

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Old October 17, 2012, 08:53 AM   #54
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About the same time, I gave up on .44 (Mag and Spl)--ammo too expensive,

These days, for revolvers, I own/load/shoot .357 Mag amd .41 Mag...and .45LC.
You gave up on the .44's due to cost but continued with the .41M and .45? Don't get me wrong, I like the .45 and .41M over the .44M (not over the .44sp though) but cost seems pretty comparable.

Back to the subject at hand I have never become disenchanted with any cartridge. Platform yes, cartridge no.
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Old October 17, 2012, 10:01 AM   #55
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Hmm, I shoot .22 lr, 9mm, .45 ACP and .45 Colt in handguns and all these cover any shooting I require. I reload for them all except, of course, the .22.

My favorite is the .45 ACP. I used to shoot .38 and .357 but as others have stated the .357 is just too much, with regard to muzzle blast, and the .45 Colt will do anything the .357 will, with less blast and no need to break the sound barrier to get the job done.

You must reload to be able to afford .45 Colt.
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Old October 17, 2012, 10:09 AM   #56
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Shortwave,

That's precisely the way I interpreted it (why not appreciate anything "bigger" than a .380).

Sorry if I was ambiguous.
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Sounds as though you and I are on the same sheet of music.

Apologies for the mis-understanding.
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Old October 19, 2012, 09:42 AM   #57
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"Disenchanted" implies that at some point I was enchanted. The only round that comes close to that for me is the 45 Colt.

I think the .45 Colt is a very good round. Several years back I owned several guns in that caliber and they were from different makers and eras. From one gun to the other the bore diameter varied by as much as .007 and cylinders by close to that amount as well. I could get each gun to shoot some ammo accurately but it took time and effort reloading and shooting select commercial ammo. At the time there was too much on my plate to fool with it. So I set the 45 Colt aside. I was not disenchanted so much as too busy with other guns and ammo to give it the time it deserved.

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Old October 19, 2012, 08:33 PM   #58
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I bought a 357 sig a while back thinking it was an auto version of the 357 magnum.

I did not do any home work and the guy behind the counter told me it could do any thing the 357 magnum could do.

Imagen my disappointment when I got the dyes to reload then them went looking for bullet and could not find any thing in the 180+ grain.

I still shoot my Glock 33 but I admit I dont love it like I did when I first got it.

I got it because I wanted one of those automags that where big in the 80s. A few months back I bought a Desert Eagle in 357 magnum and 50AE. I love them but I have always loved automags.

I am thinking of trading in my Glock 33 for a 10mm glock.
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Old October 19, 2012, 09:57 PM   #59
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I have had a few 40 S & W's over the years, all produced by different manufacturers (Sig, Glock, and H & K). While they were all reliable, well built firearms, I became less "enchanted" with the 40 as time went on. I've since been the 45 acp and 9mm route, and now the only auto pistol I own is the Sig p226 Navy in 9mm. I want to sometime get another H & K, this time in 45 acp again. I know the 40 S & W is a great round, but I doubt I will get another. jben
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Old October 20, 2012, 02:59 AM   #60
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For me it was the 357 Sig. I spent allot of time and money investing in this round only to step away from it after ten years. I've gone back to the 9mm. As for 357 magnum I really like the gun as I can load up or down from 180 castcore to 38spl. I'm a big 45acp fan but cannot afford to shoot this round as much as I want to. My 9mm gets the most attention these days.
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Old October 21, 2012, 06:14 AM   #61
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.44 magnum

the more I shoot it the more I hate it

every time I shoot one I say to myself "why o why couldn't this have been a .41 magnum"
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Old October 21, 2012, 10:40 AM   #62
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For me its the 45 ACP. I grew up with it, and the legends. I carried it professionally and shot it. It is not suitable for ethical hunting and is marginal on people.

The 45 Super is what the 45 ACP should have evolved into.
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Old October 21, 2012, 12:55 PM   #63
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Magnum Wheel Man, it sounds like you need to change your screen name (maybe big bore wheel man).

Anyway, disenchanted is a bit strong, but there has definitely been some movement towards and away from different cartridges over the years.


-9mm:
My first auto was a 9mm. Then, I decided that I just couldn't quite trust it. Slowly though, I started to come around. While for me, it was just for range use (I love .40S&W, .38spl+P, and .45ACP for defensive use), I understood that with proper ammo selection there are good loadings. What brought me full circle were the small almost pocket guns (and in some cases true pocket guns) in 9mm. I recently got my SIG P290 and I've also bought a Kel Tec PF-9 (I take possession of it next week), and in researching ammo choices I've become very comfortable with several loadings for the 9mm. I'm now looking for a good compact 9mm or even one of the smaller full size 9mm's to rotate with my .45's, .40S&W's and .357/.38's as my belt/IWB guns.

.357SIG:
I've never owned one, but when I first started buying guns (about 12 years ago or so), it was a pretty new cartridge. I was a huge .357mag fan, so the idea of an auto round that was designed to mimic the 125gr self defense loadings in .357mag appealed greatly to me. I knew I had to get one. I never did, and now I see .357SIG the same way many people see .40S&W...why bother, it doesn't do anything better than what I already have (I have somehow ended up with a box of ammo though, and I do love an excuse to buy a gun, so I'm open to convincing if anyone wants to try ).

.22LR:
Yeah, I know...it is cheap to shoot, and we all need at least one handgun and rifle in .22LR. I even agree with you. However, while I wouldn't say that shooting any gun isn't fun, I find everything but .22LR to be much more fun. I don't shoot it much. So, while I kept my Marlin 60 .22LR rifle (my first gun other than a pellet gun), I sold my only .22 handgun a few years ago. I intend to eventually buy another, but I have so many other priorities ahead of it, I don't know if I ever actually will.

.40S&W:
I actually went the opposite direction on this one. At first I didn't see the point. I bought a CZ 40B to try to change my mind. I liked the gun but I sold it because I didn't warm to the caliber (I really kick myself over that now). I liked 9mm, and I loved .45ACP. Like can be the case with many compromises, I saw it as a poor substitute for either option it attempted to split the middle between.

However, as I looked more into the caliber, I started to like it more. It seems to have many of the advantages of both. It is (barely) a big bore cartridge, and is big enough that, like .45ACP, most of the defensive loadings for it seem to perform decently. It is far less ammo dependent for performance than 9mm is, which allows me to buy whatever is on sale (though I still have my favorite ammo choices just like with 9mm). It can be chambered in compact and subcompact 9mm sized guns, or have far more rounds than .45ACP in the larger guns. Now, I see it as a good compromise between the already good .45ACP and 9mm options. I think its big bore performance in either a smaller or a higher cap gun make it possibly the best option for police and "civilian" CCW use.
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Old October 21, 2012, 02:40 PM   #64
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Old October 21, 2012, 03:29 PM   #65
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.45 ACP: ammo prices rose and so did my need for magazine capacity.
.223/7.62x39: I fell in love with an M1
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Old October 24, 2012, 04:24 PM   #66
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Old October 27, 2012, 11:09 AM   #67
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I don't think any. I reload, so can get more flexibility out of cartridges. For centerfire, I primarily shoot 9MM, .45ACP, and some .380 and 9MM Mak. Of course a lot of rimfire in .22LR.
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Old October 28, 2012, 08:41 AM   #68
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Anything starting with the numbers 38, 32 or 25. All pointless from my view. My go-to cartridges today are .22lr and 9mm. That is all. For anything requiring more firepower, I own a Mossy 12ga. loaded with buckshot.
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Old October 28, 2012, 02:24 PM   #69
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Lately I don't care for the .22 LR (in a handgun), the .25, the .32, and the .38 special.

I've moved away from the .40 S&W and the .357 Sig, although I think those calibers are good ones.

These days I'm happy with the 9mm Para, the .45 ACP, and the .357 magnum.

I am starting to get interested in the .44 magnum.
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Old October 28, 2012, 05:57 PM   #70
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40 short & weak
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Old October 28, 2012, 06:15 PM   #71
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9 MM really disappointed me. There's several I was never impressed with enough to get one like the .17, 10 MM and the 40
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Old October 28, 2012, 08:02 PM   #72
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357mag for hunting. Never again
I have taken a number of deer with it and larger calibers. The 357mag was significantly worse than a mid powered 10mm. I would much rather use a hot 40s&w for whitetail hunting than a 357mag.
I have reloaded all weights to find the best but the 40 caliber and up was notable more effective against whitetail deer. FYI my favorite deer pistol caliber is the 454 Casull. A mid powered 454 is perfect and drops them like a 30-30.
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Old October 29, 2012, 06:16 PM   #73
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I love my Ruger ALaskan .454 when i am in Alaska. I never have liked the 9mm. I love my .40 and .45 along with the venerable .357.
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Old October 30, 2012, 10:23 PM   #74
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I'm surprised no one has mentioned this, but I don't care for the FN 5.7x28mm. It is too expensive, and there are few options in firearms that will chamber it.
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Old October 31, 2012, 01:54 PM   #75
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I was introduced to larger (i.e. bigger than a .22) handguns with a 9mm Beretta 92. And while I liked the 9mm for years, lately I have found that I favor the .45 for the mess that it makes, and the .380 for size and concealability. Someday in the future I might find the right 9mm gun for me, but for now, the 9 and I aren't exactly on speaking terms.
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