Rifle that is not made but you think they should? - Page 4

Lloyd Smale · November 1, 2012, 07:58 AM

rem 700 classic or cdl in 300 H&H as a regular production gun or a model 70 featherwieght in 300 h&h.

dgludwig · November 1, 2012, 07:01 PM

A s/s Browning BAR chambered in .358 Winchester.

coyota1 · November 1, 2012, 07:16 PM

How about a double rifle side by side 40 - 63 Ballard. This would be most excellent.

Joe Chicago · November 2, 2012, 06:19 PM

A bolt action with a 20 inch medium sporter barrel (#2.5 or #3 contour). There are handy deer rifles out there like the Rem Model Seven, but their barrels are #1 contours and heat up very quickly when practicing at the range. There are rifles with 20 inch bull barrels, but they are too heavy. A Rem Model Seven (or something similar) with a medium sporter barrel would be just right for hunting deer.

To make the rifle perfect, it should have the following:
1. A free floated barrel
2. A rigid synthetic stock with aluminum bedding
3. A nice two-stage trigger like the new Vanguard S2
4. Chambered in .243Win, 7MM-08, or .308
5. A three position tang safety
6. Stainless steel action and barrel, treated with a matte black or grey anti corrosion coating
7. Detachable magazine

Not that I have been thinking about this much.

coyota1 · November 2, 2012, 07:24 PM

Joe Chicago, to make it even more perfect it needs to be select walnut, chrome moly blued steel, and a fully bedded action and 26" barrel in 222 rem.

barnbwt · November 3, 2012, 12:11 AM

A semi-auto in 45-70 or higher-power BP cartridge (not a fancy modern rimless SOCOM or whatever)
A pump-rifle in 45-70, specifically (I couldn't believe there hasn't been one...)

TCB

Joe Chicago · November 4, 2012, 05:16 PM

Coyota,

I hunt in Western PA where we alternate between stand and drive hunting in hilly woods. A light rifle with a short barrel fits the bill. It has also rained my last couple outings, so stainless and synthetic is the way to go.

coyota1 · November 4, 2012, 05:33 PM

Yes Joe Chicago, that was just a joke. But while we are on the subject, I have used my wood stocked rifles with blued barrels and actions in the rain, and I just let them dry and wipe them down. No rust, and the finish is the same as it was, and I live in Michigan.

kai44 · November 5, 2012, 01:32 AM

-.44mag semi-auto rifle
-Ruger Super Blackhawk in .500S&W
-lever action .500S&W
-AR in .270 winchester
-.454 semi-auto pistol

30-30remchester · November 5, 2012, 09:43 PM

I have always felt that a Savage model 24 style over and under chambered in 22lr over a 308 Win. would make the ideal backwoods knockabout rifle or longtime wilderness survival rifle. A 22lr for small game daily nurishment, and the 308 for big game hunting to 300 yards.

hulley · November 7, 2012, 02:21 PM

I would like a Marlin Lever in 327 Federal and a Bolt Action 5.7x28mm.

The Comedian · November 7, 2012, 09:55 PM

How about a 50 BMG double rifle?

Is that even possible without breaking your shoulder?

rmocarsky · November 7, 2012, 10:39 PM

A Ruger pump action carbine, wood and blue, stainless and synth., 18" bbl., chambered in calibers that are suitable for North American big game.

Rmocarsky

johnwilliamson062 · November 7, 2012, 11:32 PM

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But while we are on the subject, I have used my wood stocked rifles with blued barrels and actions in the rain, and I just let them dry and wipe them down. No rust, and the finish is the same as it was, and I live in Michigan.

You remove the stock and check the bottom of the barrel? Bluing is not a rust preventative. It just looks pretty.

coyota1 · November 8, 2012, 03:01 AM

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You remove the stock and check the bottom of the barrel? Bluing is not a rust preventative. It just looks pretty.

Oh contrare. The hot bluing process is a form of controlled iron oxide, and it does protect. Not as good as stainless, but it is a protective finish. I do take the action out occasionally and every time I get it wet, and no rust.

Scrumbag · November 8, 2012, 04:18 AM

For me 2 things:

1) Marlin style camp carbine using Glock mags (not pretty but available, relatively inexpensive and reliable)

2) Take down Mauser 98 actioned series of rifles (not H&H...)

ATB,

Scrummy

Moloch · November 9, 2012, 07:02 AM

Oh, I can think of a few!

- H&K MP7 clone in 17HMR - it would pretty much be a legal version of the MP7 with a legal ammunition and roughly the same performance. That would be neat.

- A modern 45-70 semi automatic rifle with a 20 round magazine in a bullpup design that works with really heavy bullet weights like 500 grains and up (Yes its a rimmed round but the SVT-40 in 7.62x54r works just fine too)
.500S&W would work too.

- Glock in 7.62x25

- Beefed up heavy barrel Steyr AUG in .308 that takes AR10 mags

mySig229 · November 9, 2012, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Moloch

Oh, I can think of a few!

- H&K MP7 clone in 17HMR - it would pretty much be a legal version of the MP7 with a legal ammunition and roughly the same performance. That would be neat.

A .17 would be roughly the performance as the 4.6? Hmm...

RedBowTies88 · November 9, 2012, 06:18 PM

A semi auto rifle...with a pistol grip, flash hider, bayonet lug, collapsable or folding stock, and a 15 round FIXED mag that could be fed quickly with stripper clips.

Stukaman · November 9, 2012, 06:23 PM

Sound like a M1 carbine paratrooper model?

RedBowTies88 · November 9, 2012, 06:24 PM

Should of added "Isn't on the banned assualt weapons list in NJ"

M1 carbines in any configuration are illegal.

But don't they have removeable mags? Having a fixed mag is the only way past NJ's regulations

Moloch · November 10, 2012, 02:30 AM

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A .17 would be roughly the performance as the 4.6? Hmm...

Well, almost!

4.6x30mm - 26 grain @ 2380 ft sec
17HMR 20 grain @ 2350 ft sec

Close enough for me.

TAKtical · November 10, 2012, 09:28 AM

Glock carbine. Ruger 9mm version of the 10/22. M1a chambered in 7.62x54r

johnwilliamson062 · November 11, 2012, 06:29 PM

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controlled iron oxide

It is rust. It is just a different color.

coyota1 · November 11, 2012, 06:37 PM

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It is rust. It is just a different color.

Well, I'm speechless. It still protects bare metal, and it looks darn nice!

November 1, 2012, 07:01 PM	#77
dgludwig Senior Member Join Date: February 12, 2005 Location: North central Ohio Posts: 4,463	A s/s Browning BAR chambered in .358 Winchester. __________________ ONLY AN ARMED PEOPLE CAN BE TRULY FREE ; ONLY AN UNARMED PEOPLE CAN EVER BE ENSLAVED ...Aristotle NRA Benefactor Life Member

November 2, 2012, 06:19 PM	#79
Joe Chicago Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2011 Location: Chicago area Posts: 277	A bolt action with a 20 inch medium sporter barrel (#2.5 or #3 contour). There are handy deer rifles out there like the Rem Model Seven, but their barrels are #1 contours and heat up very quickly when practicing at the range. There are rifles with 20 inch bull barrels, but they are too heavy. A Rem Model Seven (or something similar) with a medium sporter barrel would be just right for hunting deer. To make the rifle perfect, it should have the following: 1. A free floated barrel 2. A rigid synthetic stock with aluminum bedding 3. A nice two-stage trigger like the new Vanguard S2 4. Chambered in .243Win, 7MM-08, or .308 5. A three position tang safety 6. Stainless steel action and barrel, treated with a matte black or grey anti corrosion coating 7. Detachable magazine Not that I have been thinking about this much. Last edited by Joe Chicago; November 2, 2012 at 06:27 PM.

November 3, 2012, 12:11 AM	#81
barnbwt Senior Member Join Date: May 17, 2012 Posts: 230	A semi-auto in 45-70 or higher-power BP cartridge (not a fancy modern rimless SOCOM or whatever) A pump-rifle in 45-70, specifically (I couldn't believe there hasn't been one...) TCB __________________ "Guns don't kill people; people kill people. Guns protect people from people with smaller guns." -Stan Smith

November 7, 2012, 02:21 PM	#86
hulley Senior Member Join Date: November 9, 2008 Location: Hoschton, Ga. Posts: 659	I would like a Marlin Lever in 327 Federal and a Bolt Action 5.7x28mm. __________________ Nov 2, 2011 sent form 4, SS Sparrow. Arrived May 29, 2012. Jan 30, 2012 sent form 1 for SBR. Arrived July 12, 2012 Jan 22, 2013 Sent form 4, 762-SDN-6, check cashed Jan 25, 2013.

November 9, 2012, 06:18 PM	#94
RedBowTies88 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2011 Location: 609 NJ Posts: 650	A semi auto rifle...with a pistol grip, flash hider, bayonet lug, collapsable or folding stock, and a 15 round FIXED mag that could be fed quickly with stripper clips. __________________ "...with liberty and justice for all." (Must be 21. Void where prohibited. Some restrictions may apply. Not available in all states.)

November 1, 2012, 07:58 AM	#76
Lloyd Smale Junior member Join Date: February 11, 2005 Posts: 822	rem 700 classic or cdl in 300 H&H as a regular production gun or a model 70 featherwieght in 300 h&h.

November 1, 2012, 07:16 PM	#78
coyota1 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2008 Location: West Michigan Posts: 656	How about a double rifle side by side 40 - 63 Ballard. This would be most excellent.

November 2, 2012, 07:24 PM	#80
coyota1 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2008 Location: West Michigan Posts: 656	Joe Chicago, to make it even more perfect it needs to be select walnut, chrome moly blued steel, and a fully bedded action and 26" barrel in 222 rem.

November 4, 2012, 05:16 PM	#82
Joe Chicago Senior Member Join Date: November 11, 2011 Location: Chicago area Posts: 277	Coyota, I hunt in Western PA where we alternate between stand and drive hunting in hilly woods. A light rifle with a short barrel fits the bill. It has also rained my last couple outings, so stainless and synthetic is the way to go.

November 4, 2012, 05:33 PM	#83
coyota1 Senior Member Join Date: April 6, 2008 Location: West Michigan Posts: 656	Yes Joe Chicago, that was just a joke. But while we are on the subject, I have used my wood stocked rifles with blued barrels and actions in the rain, and I just let them dry and wipe them down. No rust, and the finish is the same as it was, and I live in Michigan.

November 5, 2012, 01:32 AM	#84
kai44 Junior Member Join Date: October 29, 2012 Posts: 13	-.44mag semi-auto rifle -Ruger Super Blackhawk in .500S&W -lever action .500S&W -AR in .270 winchester -.454 semi-auto pistol

November 5, 2012, 09:43 PM	#85
30-30remchester Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2009 Location: mountains of colorado Posts: 977	I have always felt that a Savage model 24 style over and under chambered in 22lr over a 308 Win. would make the ideal backwoods knockabout rifle or longtime wilderness survival rifle. A 22lr for small game daily nurishment, and the 308 for big game hunting to 300 yards.

November 7, 2012, 09:55 PM	#87
The Comedian Junior Member Join Date: October 28, 2012 Posts: 14	How about a 50 BMG double rifle? Is that even possible without breaking your shoulder?

November 7, 2012, 10:39 PM	#88
rmocarsky Senior Member Join Date: February 27, 2009 Posts: 312	A Ruger pump action carbine, wood and blue, stainless and synth., 18" bbl., chambered in calibers that are suitable for North American big game. Rmocarsky

November 8, 2012, 04:18 AM	#91
Scrumbag Member Join Date: May 22, 2012 Posts: 85	For me 2 things: 1) Marlin style camp carbine using Glock mags (not pretty but available, relatively inexpensive and reliable) 2) Take down Mauser 98 actioned series of rifles (not H&H...) ATB, Scrummy

November 9, 2012, 07:02 AM	#92
Moloch Senior Member Join Date: November 27, 2005 Posts: 1,278	Oh, I can think of a few! - H&K MP7 clone in 17HMR - it would pretty much be a legal version of the MP7 with a legal ammunition and roughly the same performance. That would be neat. - A modern 45-70 semi automatic rifle with a 20 round magazine in a bullpup design that works with really heavy bullet weights like 500 grains and up (Yes its a rimmed round but the SVT-40 in 7.62x54r works just fine too) .500S&W would work too. - Glock in 7.62x25 - Beefed up heavy barrel Steyr AUG in .308 that takes AR10 mags

November 9, 2012, 06:23 PM	#95
Stukaman Member Join Date: October 17, 2010 Posts: 78	Sound like a M1 carbine paratrooper model?

November 9, 2012, 06:24 PM	#96
RedBowTies88 Senior Member Join Date: October 18, 2011 Location: 609 NJ Posts: 650	Should of added "Isn't on the banned assualt weapons list in NJ" M1 carbines in any configuration are illegal. But don't they have removeable mags? Having a fixed mag is the only way past NJ's regulations __________________ "...with liberty and justice for all." (Must be 21. Void where prohibited. Some restrictions may apply. Not available in all states.)

November 10, 2012, 09:28 AM	#98
TAKtical Senior Member Join Date: September 25, 2012 Location: ohio Posts: 145	Glock carbine. Ruger 9mm version of the 10/22. M1a chambered in 7.62x54r __________________ Due to several differences of opinion with staff, I am choosing to no longer do business on this forum. Everyone that has a pending order will need to contact me via email at TakticalHolsters@aol.com Thanks, -Tom&Tricia