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Old October 15, 2012, 10:25 PM   #26
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Sigs feel loose and cheap compared to my HKs and Berettas.
In what way does a SIG feel loose?
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Old October 15, 2012, 11:33 PM   #27
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Amsdorf "Sigs feel loose and cheap compared to my HKs and Berettas"

Thats Funny!
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Old October 16, 2012, 07:24 AM   #28
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He's trolling.
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Old October 16, 2012, 07:53 AM   #29
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Sigs feel loose and cheap compared to my HKs and Berettas.
The only model I can think that may explain this is the 2022...

But, P series SIGs feel very solid to me.
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Old October 16, 2012, 10:07 AM   #30
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I'm picking up a P229 tonight after work, looks very much like the pic posted by plouffedaddy. P229 w/SRT, short reach trigger, night sites and new style grips, 2-15rd mags and box for $720. Used but not fired. Although I'll probably change the trigger to the standard reach. Feels very much like my P225 with the thinner grips and I love my P225.
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Old October 16, 2012, 10:20 AM   #31
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Although I'll probably change the trigger to the standard reach
Give that SRT a trial before you think about changing it out.

The SRT is NICE!
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Old October 16, 2012, 11:33 AM   #32
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FYI
Srt stands for "short reset trigger", which it definitely is, and its awesome to shoot with.
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Old October 16, 2012, 11:39 AM   #33
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Sigs feel loose and cheap compared to my HKs and Berettas
Thats the funniest statement today......

I own them all and the P series Sig Sauer is the highest quality production gun you can buy. All my HKs's are reliable and solid but nowhere near the fit and finish my Sig's have.
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Old October 16, 2012, 12:22 PM   #34
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Give that SRT a trial before you think about changing it out.
He's not. SIG has some confusing terminology. The short reach trigger, NOT the SRT, is basically a thin trigger. It reduces the reach to the trigger face for folks with shorter fingers. It's much thinner than the standard trigger. I find it to be unnecessary with the new grips that SIG uses.

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All my HKs's are reliable and solid but nowhere near the fit and finish my Sig's have.
That's the second funniest statement today...

I'd say they're equal. I see nothing lacking in the fit and finish of any of the SIGs I have owned or the HKs I currently own.
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Old October 16, 2012, 02:13 PM   #35
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I believe this gun has the Short Reset Trigger and a Short Reach Trigger. Sig sells a trigger that the curved part (where your finger rests) is closer to the rear as opposed to the standard trigger, this does not apply to the short reset trigger. I have pulled on a few SRTs and this particular model didnt break until it almost touched the back of the guard.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I've seen the parts in the catalog.
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Old October 16, 2012, 02:18 PM   #36
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Kinda funny, my P225 from 1986 doesnt feel loose at all and it has thousands of round through it. One of the many reasons I consider myself a Sig guy.
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Old October 16, 2012, 02:19 PM   #37
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I believe this gun has the Short Reset Trigger and a Short Reach Trigger. Sig sells a trigger that the curved part (where your finger rests) is closer to the rear as opposed to the standard trigger, this does not apply to the short reset trigger. I have pulled on a few SRTs and this particular model didnt break until it almost touched the back of the guard.
Someone correct me if I'm wrong but I've seen the parts in the catalog.
That's basically exactly what I said in the post before yours...
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Old October 16, 2012, 02:39 PM   #38
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That's basically exactly what I said in the post before yours...
Yeah I re-read it a few minutes after I posted, sorry, crazy at work today and I missed it.
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Old October 16, 2012, 02:55 PM   #39
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Yeah I re-read it a few minutes after I posted, sorry, crazy at work today and I missed it.
No problem. Enjoy the gun either way. The SRT is an awesome edition to an already fine firearm.
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Old October 16, 2012, 04:28 PM   #40
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I have pulled on a few SRTs and this particular model didnt break until it almost touched the back of the guard.
Thats not the SRT working, its where the trigger breaks. The SRT is what happens after you shoot a round, you only have to bring your finger back about 1/4 inch before the trigger resets and is ready to fire again. Sig also offers a trigger thats much thinner and has a shorter reach for people with smaller hands. Not to be confused with the SRT.
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Old October 16, 2012, 08:09 PM   #41
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I picked my P229 up a little while ago. It does not have the short REACH trigger but does have the SRT, and I'm diggin it! This is the first slim grip that I got my mitts on so thats probably why I thought it had the shorter reach trigger. Anyways the shop gave me a better deal than I thought originally. The price tag said $720 plus tax and AMEX fees (I had a gift card), I paid $700 OTD with box and both mags. The guns looks barely used if at all, theres no grit in any cracks and the barrel is clean. I'm happy to say the least. I snapped some pics but the lighting is terrible so I'll do it tomorrow outside.
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Old October 17, 2012, 06:03 PM   #42
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You'll love it!

P228R w/Hogue grips and Streamlight TLR-1s
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Old October 17, 2012, 08:00 PM   #43
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Just stare at it awhile...how could you not want one...my $500.00 used 229. Of course it costs more now since I added the TFO sights and new factory grips/screws.

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Old October 17, 2012, 09:01 PM   #44
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Here is my new gem. I cant wait to run some rounds through this baby!
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Old October 17, 2012, 09:07 PM   #45
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German P226 9mm owner / operator here..

Pros:
- 100% reliable so far, lubed with TW25B (shooting factory 115 gr, out of MecGar mags)
- like the control layout better than any other semi
- takedown / reassembly is easy and sensible
- I paid $465 for a used gun that was obviously maintained well
- holster wear gives it character

Cons:
- for my application, there are none, other than the fact that I shoot better groups with a 1911

I realize that the SigSauer P2xx series isn't for everyone - hey, it's a big, old, heavy combat pistol. My vintage has no rail. I'm ok with that, I happen to prefer big old heavy combat pistols such as the 1911 and Beretta in addition to the SigSauer.

FWIW - Amsdorf had a bad experience in reliability with a P226 which may affect his opinion of them. I hope SigArms makes it right so that he and his son can enjoy the pistol.
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Old October 17, 2012, 10:12 PM   #46
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The P229 is an awesome pistol!!

Here is mine with it's new Hogue G10 grips.



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Old October 18, 2012, 06:44 AM   #47
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P229 Elite Dark. Worth every penny. A tack driving weapon that continues to impress. It fires every piece of garbage ammo I can put through it and does it extremely accurate.

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Old October 18, 2012, 06:59 AM   #48
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I have a Sig P228R in 9mm that I LOVE.

The 229, imo, is just as great a weapon (I'm just a 228 fan for the slightly slimmer slide).

I, sadly, have never had the opportunity to shoot .357 Sig...desperately hoping that with several new job opportunities on the horizon I can begin to shoot it.
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Old October 18, 2012, 07:10 AM   #49
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We got some pretty guns being posted here! I'm gonna add an Elite Dark to the mix in the future, however I think the Elite Dark is gonna be a P226, I like to do bowling pin shoots and target shooting so the P226 will play that role.
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