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Old October 7, 2012, 09:25 AM   #26
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Go to the range right before deer season. 1.500 groups are considered fantastic by most of the guys here in Pa. Out of 100 shooters, I doubt 15 could shoot an inch and a half group if the rifle will hold a half inch @ 100 yards. I ALWAYS try to use Remington Corlokt bullets when I reload. I get the occasional gun that just will not shoot in, but it is rare. I would rather loose a little accuracy at 100 yards than have the bullet not work when it gets there. I went down the "Super deer bullet" road and am not impressed. Good ol' Corlokt works for me.
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Old October 7, 2012, 12:38 PM   #27
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If I had never started reloading I'd probably be happy with 2" groups as well. I've only killed one animal at a range where a 2" @ 100 yard gun wouldn't get it done. However I'm spoiled now and I'm not going back. Plus I never mentioned using premium bullets I always stated standard cup and core bullets. I'll never buy Remington Core Lokt bullets again for reloading purposes, because I did have a bad experience with them plain and simple.
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Old October 8, 2012, 11:35 AM   #28
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Not to jack the thread, but that looks about right for a 180 grain bullet out of the .30-06.
No...it should be about 2,700 fps.


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Old October 8, 2012, 05:26 PM   #29
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No...it should be about 2,700 fps.
Velocity measurements for factory ammo are often done using 26" barrels. As a result, they tend to be overly optimistic. Using a 24" barrel, 2600fps isn't unreasonable; that's only 50 fps lost per inch of difference.
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Old October 8, 2012, 11:22 PM   #30
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My .243 H&R Handi rifle shoots remington cor-lokt 100gr bullets extremely well on the other hand it shoots federal 100gr not so well. When I shoot factory ammo in my 30-06 and not handloads its always cor-lokt. The 06 is sub moa with either cor-lokt or my handloads. Better with handloads though. Ive shot cor-lokt for a long time and dont see that changing anytime soon. Federal on the other hand leaves alot to be desired in my opinion.
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Old October 9, 2012, 06:58 PM   #31
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Velocity measurements for factory ammo are often done using 26" barrels. As a result, they tend to be overly optimistic. Using a 24" barrel, 2600fps isn't unreasonable; that's only 50 fps lost per inch of difference.
Most quotes I've seen are from 24" barrels....2,700 fps has been the standard for 180's from a 30-06 for as long as i can remember.

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Old October 11, 2012, 09:58 PM   #32
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I wouldn't assume Remington Core-lokt bullets are the problem. These 3 shot groups were with 180 gr. Core-lokt bullets. This was a load I had done for another rifle and haven't tried to work up a load yet for this rifle. Btw this is out of a Marlin XL7 and a Nikon Prostaff scope which isn't exactly high end.[IMG]

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Old October 12, 2012, 08:22 PM   #33
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GunPlummer, I have shot five deer on the other side of the state near Slippery Rock, and the longest shot was 70 yards. If your terrain is like ours, two MOA is just fine.
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Old October 18, 2012, 02:00 PM   #34
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I was shooting a Savage 10 Tactical in 308 Win that was fully capable of sub MOA groups with 168gr match ammo. I tried Federal 180gr blue box in that rifle and got 12" groups at 100. Some ammo just doesn't work well with some rifles.

You can probably sell those 100gr Corelok loads to someone who has a stick that can shoot them tight. If nothing else take them to your local gunshow for trading stock.

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Old October 18, 2012, 04:46 PM   #35
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I own 2 Sako rifles chambered in .308. One shoots really good groups with Remington Corelokts, the other groups best with Winchester. Just because you have accuracy issues with a particular ammunition in a particular rifle, does not mean that the ammunition won't get good results in another rifle.
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Old October 18, 2012, 11:11 PM   #36
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Some lots of Remington ammo/bullets are better than others...you see those 3 pieces of duct tape?

Thats a 3 shot group of Remington 180 grain CoreLokt...the other 3 rounds are reloads with Berger VLD's...same rifle.


A different lot of Rem ammo shot pretty good in this rifle last year...this batch was/is crap...
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