Vote: who wants to see a kickass new logo for TFL? - Page 2

**Mike Irwin** · September 29, 2012, 12:23 PM

"Jeez you guys are more fussy than my older female clients!"

You're not the only one here with design experience...

**Al Norris** · September 29, 2012, 02:45 PM

Stainless, I like what you've done. It does add a bit of pizzazz to the old banner. But I also agree with Mike - Fat bottom fonts irritate me.

StainlessSteel215 · September 29, 2012, 03:22 PM

OK, here's the latest version fellas.....not sure what you guys were referring to about "fat bottom fonts" thats a new phrase to me....but I did soften the outline on the font which is what caused the look you were probably referring to.

What do you guys think of this? If I'm gonna stick my neck out there I want to at least make a good effort!

Skadoosh · September 29, 2012, 04:33 PM

It is better than the present logo for sure.

**Mal H** · September 29, 2012, 06:07 PM

I do like your latest version - it's growing on me.

StainlessSteel215 · September 29, 2012, 06:17 PM

Mal, thats very encouraging to hear....as much as I deny it I think all designers are seeking an ego stroke by positive feedback lol. Thanks, as Rich said himself via email it's up to you guys and admin....I just wanna do my best to liven up the look of the site. I honestly enjoy this place very much after just days and plan to stick around a while. And After all the main logo/banner is the "face" of any website.

Ill patiently await more feedback...thanks for all the constructive criticism so far guys. I've been checking the site on and off all day from my iPhone!

**Al Norris** · September 29, 2012, 08:31 PM

I like it, Stainless!

Mal? You do know that if we adopt this it will make our old golf shirts, um, collectable?

StainlessSteel215 · September 29, 2012, 08:43 PM

Thanks Al, although it would result in a little cost on your end to have it printed...I could easily create a silk screen/embroidery version of this for shirts, stitching, etc.

Say the word guys, seems like the latest version is catching on!

**JohnKSa** · September 29, 2012, 10:35 PM

I think by "fat-bottom fonts", Al & Mike are referring to the fact that the downstrokes of the letters "The Firing Line" taper larger at the bottom.

**Mike Irwin** · September 29, 2012, 11:21 PM

Exactly.

A fat bottom font is wider, or appears to be wider by a trick of perception, at the bottom and tapers towards the top of the letter.

There are a number of different names for it... Christmas tree, Pyramid, Triangle, whatever.

Hates them I do, theyz be not my preciousses...

StainlessSteel215 · September 29, 2012, 11:41 PM

Gotcha...fixed it on the last version. Now its just as a razor thin stroke that acts as a highlight to really make the text pop.

**Shane Tuttle** · September 30, 2012, 06:14 PM

Not warm to the idea. To be honest, the original is classic looking and the new projected one isn't really all that different in the grand scheme. Change of lettering style and added a bullet in the graphic is really all that's done noticeably. The background went from eye-catching to...well...black.

My "vote" is if there should be a change, there should be a change. Otherwise, I like our "old" one.

TheNatureBoy · September 30, 2012, 06:21 PM

I like the suggested "new" logo.

StainlessSteel215 · September 30, 2012, 10:06 PM

Gentlemen, here's the latest. Jazzed up and has much more personality now. As I said this idea was aimed more at a revamp...not a complete re-design. I set out to pay homage to the original just bring it out of the dark ages!

I think I'll park it here for a while until I get final feedback....I listened to every single comment and you guys all had good ones..now Im wiped!

CWKahrFan · September 30, 2012, 10:10 PM

Nice...

Skadoosh · October 1, 2012, 12:08 PM

The lopsided/leaning bullet kinda bugs me...

**Shane Tuttle** · October 1, 2012, 06:20 PM

Hmmmm.....

Nope. Still not feeling it. Has nothing to do with your talent. I think it's commendable for a member to offer something of this nature to speak the truth. I do like the updated styling cues for the background. Taking the original and adding some panache to it does liven it up. As Skadoosh said, the "lean" in the bullet doesn't seem congruent. And, having the bullet just sit there in space doesn't seem like it belongs. If anything, I'd have a trail of some sort going through the words and the bullet on the leading edge of it displaying it being fired.

The one major factor that causes the proposed logo to not grow on me is it just looks...cartoonish.

StainlessSteel215 · October 1, 2012, 09:33 PM

Well, sorry to disappoint but I think thats about as far as I'll take this concept on spec in my spare time. Thanks for all the feedback, and if the rest of you staff and members decide to pull the trigger (ha ha) with my re-design then I will make any final modifications.

Thanks everyone who contributed. Just thought it would be a cool idea to breathe some life into a severely outdated look.

**Brian Pfleuger** · October 2, 2012, 11:29 AM

I'd like to see a sample that is essentially the current logo, updated to Hi-Def, with the bullet added and a slight look of magnification where the scope is.

In other words, take your current design, change the font of The Firing Line to something more... normal (no offense)... and put the crosshair back wher it was.

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September 29, 2012, 12:23 PM	#26
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,097	"Jeez you guys are more fussy than my older female clients!" You're not the only one here with design experience... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 29, 2012, 02:45 PM	#27
Al Norris Staff Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 8,741	Stainless, I like what you've done. It does add a bit of pizzazz to the old banner. But I also agree with Mike - Fat bottom fonts irritate me. __________________ Listings of the Current 2A Cases: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416973

September 29, 2012, 03:22 PM	#28
StainlessSteel215 Junior member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 250	OK, here's the latest version fellas.....not sure what you guys were referring to about "fat bottom fonts" thats a new phrase to me....but I did soften the outline on the font which is what caused the look you were probably referring to. What do you guys think of this? If I'm gonna stick my neck out there I want to at least make a good effort! Last edited by StainlessSteel215; September 29, 2012 at 03:27 PM.

September 29, 2012, 04:33 PM	#29
Skadoosh Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2010 Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk VA Posts: 1,622	It is better than the present logo for sure. __________________ NRA Life Member (2003) If you cannot defeat your enemy in the crucible of truth, there’s nothing left but a cauldron of hate.

September 29, 2012, 06:07 PM	#30
Mal H Staff Join Date: March 20, 1999 Location: Somewhere in the woods of Northern VA Posts: 14,069	I do like your latest version - it's growing on me.

September 29, 2012, 06:17 PM	#31
StainlessSteel215 Junior member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 250	Mal, thats very encouraging to hear....as much as I deny it I think all designers are seeking an ego stroke by positive feedback lol. Thanks, as Rich said himself via email it's up to you guys and admin....I just wanna do my best to liven up the look of the site. I honestly enjoy this place very much after just days and plan to stick around a while. And After all the main logo/banner is the "face" of any website. Ill patiently await more feedback...thanks for all the constructive criticism so far guys. I've been checking the site on and off all day from my iPhone!

September 29, 2012, 08:31 PM	#32
Al Norris Staff Join Date: June 29, 2000 Location: Rupert, Idaho Posts: 8,741	I like it, Stainless! Mal? You do know that if we adopt this it will make our old golf shirts, um, collectable? __________________ Listings of the Current 2A Cases: http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=416973

September 29, 2012, 08:43 PM	#33
StainlessSteel215 Junior member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 250	Thanks Al, although it would result in a little cost on your end to have it printed...I could easily create a silk screen/embroidery version of this for shirts, stitching, etc. Say the word guys, seems like the latest version is catching on!

September 29, 2012, 10:35 PM	#34
JohnKSa Staff Join Date: February 12, 2001 Location: DFW Area Posts: 16,753	I think by "fat-bottom fonts", Al & Mike are referring to the fact that the downstrokes of the letters "The Firing Line" taper larger at the bottom. __________________ Did you know that there is a TEXAS State Rifle Association? Check out Black Bear Flashlights.

September 29, 2012, 11:21 PM	#35
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,097	Exactly. A fat bottom font is wider, or appears to be wider by a trick of perception, at the bottom and tapers towards the top of the letter. There are a number of different names for it... Christmas tree, Pyramid, Triangle, whatever. Hates them I do, theyz be not my preciousses... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

September 29, 2012, 11:41 PM	#36
StainlessSteel215 Junior member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 250	Gotcha...fixed it on the last version. Now its just as a razor thin stroke that acts as a highlight to really make the text pop.

September 30, 2012, 06:14 PM	#37
Shane Tuttle Staff Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: Blue Grass, IA Posts: 8,200	Not warm to the idea. To be honest, the original is classic looking and the new projected one isn't really all that different in the grand scheme. Change of lettering style and added a bullet in the graphic is really all that's done noticeably. The background went from eye-catching to...well...black. My "vote" is if there should be a change, there should be a change. Otherwise, I like our "old" one. __________________ If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language. Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

September 30, 2012, 06:21 PM	#38
TheNatureBoy Senior Member Join Date: September 6, 2007 Posts: 1,085	I like the suggested "new" logo.

September 30, 2012, 10:06 PM	#39
StainlessSteel215 Junior member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 250	Gentlemen, here's the latest. Jazzed up and has much more personality now. As I said this idea was aimed more at a revamp...not a complete re-design. I set out to pay homage to the original just bring it out of the dark ages! I think I'll park it here for a while until I get final feedback....I listened to every single comment and you guys all had good ones..now Im wiped! Last edited by StainlessSteel215; September 30, 2012 at 10:33 PM.

September 30, 2012, 10:10 PM	#40
CWKahrFan Senior Member Join Date: November 3, 2010 Posts: 1,505	Nice... __________________ IF THE SHOE FITS, WEAR IT!... IF THE GUN FITS, SHOOT IT!

October 1, 2012, 12:08 PM	#41
Skadoosh Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2010 Location: Virginia Beach/Norfolk VA Posts: 1,622	The lopsided/leaning bullet kinda bugs me... __________________ NRA Life Member (2003) If you cannot defeat your enemy in the crucible of truth, there’s nothing left but a cauldron of hate.

October 1, 2012, 06:20 PM	#42
Shane Tuttle Staff Join Date: November 28, 2005 Location: Blue Grass, IA Posts: 8,200	Hmmmm..... Nope. Still not feeling it. Has nothing to do with your talent. I think it's commendable for a member to offer something of this nature to speak the truth. I do like the updated styling cues for the background. Taking the original and adding some panache to it does liven it up. As Skadoosh said, the "lean" in the bullet doesn't seem congruent. And, having the bullet just sit there in space doesn't seem like it belongs. If anything, I'd have a trail of some sort going through the words and the bullet on the leading edge of it displaying it being fired. The one major factor that causes the proposed logo to not grow on me is it just looks...cartoonish. __________________ If it were up to me, the word "got" would be deleted from the English language. Posting and YOU: http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

October 1, 2012, 09:33 PM	#43
StainlessSteel215 Junior member Join Date: September 26, 2012 Posts: 250	Well, sorry to disappoint but I think thats about as far as I'll take this concept on spec in my spare time. Thanks for all the feedback, and if the rest of you staff and members decide to pull the trigger (ha ha) with my re-design then I will make any final modifications. Thanks everyone who contributed. Just thought it would be a cool idea to breathe some life into a severely outdated look.

October 2, 2012, 11:29 AM	#44
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,454	I'd like to see a sample that is essentially the current logo, updated to Hi-Def, with the bullet added and a slight look of magnification where the scope is. In other words, take your current design, change the font of The Firing Line to something more... normal (no offense)... and put the crosshair back wher it was. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.