The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > Hogan's Alley > Handguns: The Semi-automatic Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old June 28, 2012, 01:06 PM   #1
mudgun83
Member
 
Join Date: February 17, 2011
Posts: 93
Too Early to Buy a Sig P938?

Quandry - my wife and I both have Sig P238s and both love them, though we did experience a few of the growing pains with the recoil spring and magazine issues. All that is behind us now and the 238 has proven to be a very popular and reliable pistol. We have not had any issues with ours since acquiring the flat springs and V3 mags.
Enter the P938. I also have a Kimber Solo as primary carry (mine's been very reliable) but prefer the Sig DA/SA to the Kimber DAO. If I would have known the 938 was coming I probably would have waited. I finally got to handle a P938 at my LGS yesterday and was really impressed. It has just enough more dimension than the 238 to feel that much better in my hand, though I did not buy/fire it.
So the question - ALL reports I have seen on the web from folks who have fired the P938 are very positive, i.e., Sig seems to have learned from the 238 mistakes and was able to bring out a more refined P938 from the get-go. I will have one (want one!) but should I wait longer to see if any ugly issues arise?
Your thoughts....
mudgun83 is offline  
Old June 28, 2012, 01:21 PM   #2
aarondhgraham
Senior Member
 
Join Date: December 1, 2009
Location: Stillwater, OKlahoma
Posts: 7,218
Are you an early adopter?,,,

Personally I like to wait until the inevitable bugs show up.

And they always do.

Quote:
...though we did experience a few of the growing pains with the recoil spring and magazine issues.
Aarond

.
__________________
Caje: The coward dies a thousand times, the brave only once.
Kirby: That's about all it takes, ain't it?
Combat: "A Silent Cry"
Aarond is good,,, Aarond is wise,,, Always trust Aarond! (most of the time)
aarondhgraham is offline  
Old June 28, 2012, 01:31 PM   #3
BarryLee
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 29, 2010
Location: The ATL (OTP)
Posts: 2,787
Yes, it really is up to you, but if I really wanted one I go ahead and buy it.
__________________
A major source of objection to a free economy is precisely that it ... gives people what they want instead of what a particular group thinks they ought to want. Underlying most arguments against the free market is a lack of belief in freedom itself.
- Milton Friedman
BarryLee is offline  
Old June 28, 2012, 03:21 PM   #4
vyse.04
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 10, 2011
Location: Illinois
Posts: 538
Well you bought the Solo with known issues and got a winner, so why not live on the edge and get a Sig? The downside is that Sig has been known to add slight modifications down the road, so that could be a downer.
vyse.04 is offline  
Old June 28, 2012, 04:10 PM   #5
tcfiero
Junior Member
 
Join Date: January 1, 2012
Posts: 4
Quote:
Originally Posted by mudgun83 View Post
Quandry - my wife and I both have Sig P238s and both love them, though we did experience a few of the growing pains with the recoil spring and magazine issues. All that is behind us now and the 238 has proven to be a very popular and reliable pistol. We have not had any issues with ours since acquiring the flat springs and V3 mags.
Enter the P938. I also have a Kimber Solo as primary carry (mine's been very reliable) but prefer the Sig DA/SA to the Kimber DAO.
MUD, I believe the 938 is SA not DA/SA. Just like the 238.

Sent from my Kindle Fire using Tapatalk 2
tcfiero is offline  
Old June 28, 2012, 06:07 PM   #6
rob i
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 21, 2004
Location: NH
Posts: 140
The 238 had oodles of issues at first. Mine wasn't even am early model and it was headache after headache. Sucks for me as its one of the nicest shooting pistols I've ever had. Definitely the best shooting sub compact 380 out there.

With all that said, I've read several reviews of the new 938 and have not read one complaint yet. Perhaps this one is bug free from the get go.
They certainly had a lot of practice with the 238, so I'm thinking this one will be good.

Rob
rob i is offline  
Old June 28, 2012, 09:09 PM   #7
mudgun83
Member
 
Join Date: February 17, 2011
Posts: 93
Tcfiero,
You are absolutely right. I ALWAYS carry the 238 cocked and locked, so it's always SAO. I've got a Sig 225 also that is DA/SA, and I forget that I couldn't fire the 238 DA even if I wanted to. Thanks for the correction.
Mudgun
mudgun83 is offline  
Old June 28, 2012, 09:09 PM   #8
dave9969
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 5, 2012
Location: South Florida
Posts: 199
its my understanding the 938 is basically a scaled down 1911
its SAO sadly as I really REALLY wanted it to be SA/DA.
so if you are hoping to pick up the ideal SA/DA gun, keep looking like me.

It still looks great, but I will not be held ransom to gun stores due to product "shortages" while they keep ONE on the shelf and 50 in the back room to prove its scarce.
It is billed as a mid 400-500 dollar range gun, yet a quick check on the interwebs shows it currently selling for 750-999 varying by auction or legit order from a gun store retailer.
I'm waiting.
dave9969 is offline  
Old June 29, 2012, 10:54 AM   #9
rob i
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 21, 2004
Location: NH
Posts: 140
Msrp for the 938 is 700-800 usd. Where in the world did you hear that it was a $400-$500 gun?????

Blackwoods model msrp is $809.
rob i is offline  
Old June 29, 2012, 11:03 AM   #10
kcub
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 24, 2010
Location: Austin, Texas
Posts: 2,020
I'm waiting for the P1040 ;-)
kcub is offline  
Old June 29, 2012, 01:49 PM   #11
coop2564
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 4, 2011
Location: Frisco, TX
Posts: 321
If you find one under $700 Id get it. Mine has been flawless. Grips and Mags are now avaliable.
coop2564 is offline  
Old June 29, 2012, 02:56 PM   #12
WVsig
Senior Member
 
Join Date: June 30, 2010
Location: KY
Posts: 3,430
I would not touch it with a ten foot pole for at least 12 months unless you like being a beta tester. The P238 has gone through 5+ revisions to get to the point where it functions most of the time. It is a flawed design in 380 auto so there is no reason to believe that it will be any less flawed in 9mm.
__________________
-Fast is fine, but accurate is final. The trick is learning to take your time when you're in a hurry." -Wyatt Earp
-Its a tool box... I don't care you put the tools in for the job that's all... -Sam from Ronin
-It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. -Aristotle
-Without deviation from the norm, progress is not possible.-Frank Zappa
WVsig is offline  
Old June 29, 2012, 07:00 PM   #13
kennethlee
Member
 
Join Date: December 17, 2011
Location: Idaho
Posts: 55
I just picked mine up today. It was the Extreme model with two mags - one extended 7 round and one flush 6 round. The cost was $749. I'll be firing it tomorrow or Sunday and will let you know what I think.
__________________
You become what you practice.
kennethlee is offline  
Old June 29, 2012, 07:04 PM   #14
Sparks1957
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 4, 2011
Location: Vermont
Posts: 1,474
Quote:
I would not touch it with a ten foot pole for at least 12 months unless you like being a beta tester
As interesting as the 938 sounds, I'll wait awhile for the same reasons.
Sparks1957 is offline  
Old July 3, 2012, 03:30 PM   #15
MikePapa1
Junior Member
 
Join Date: January 11, 2011
Posts: 7
I've had mine for about a month with right at 500 rounds through it. Initially, I had a couple of failure to go into battery on the first round and a few failures to eject. After about 200 rounds it has been trouble free.
MikePapa1 is offline  
Old July 3, 2012, 03:53 PM   #16
RickB
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 1, 2000
Location: Western WA
Posts: 5,845
Quote:
I would not touch it with a ten foot pole for at least 12 months unless you like being a beta tester. The P238 has gone through 5+ revisions to get to the point where it functions most of the time.
We had a P238 on a Back-Up Gun stage at our IDPA match, last Summer. Well over 100 people each put at least five rounds through it (no "torture test", but more realistic than a torture test, too), and we had exactly one malfunction. After a field-strip clean and lube, it ran for the rest of the weekend. What sort of issues should we have had? Any idea which revision we would have had, twelve months ago?
RickB is offline  
Old July 3, 2012, 08:27 PM   #17
dave9969
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 5, 2012
Location: South Florida
Posts: 199
they hype at shot was 400-500 was the target price range or so I was told.
honestly 700+ is insane I'm sorry
I love my Sigs, but not that much.

why one earth would I pay that kind of coin for a SA only baby 1911 ? Call it what it is, its a scaled down 1911 in 9mm. love the look of the gun, but that price is full sized.
dave9969 is offline  
Old July 3, 2012, 09:34 PM   #18
KyJim
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 26, 2005
Location: The Bluegrass
Posts: 7,749
I have a fairly early P238 and have never had an issue with it, though I only shoot FMJ through it. It is not the out of the very first batches released and was still reasonably priced when I purchased it. I agree that prices on these little pistols are too high. Perhaps that reflects warranty and service costs.

I personally would not buy a 938 until Sig works out the kinks. The physics of making a short barreled 9mm work is more daunting than a short barreled .380 because every thing moves faster and with more energy and momentum. That's why I chose a Kahr PM9 as my 9mm sub-compact pocket pistol.

Remember that the Ruger LCP also experienced some early teething problems and so did some other designs which were new for a particular manufacturer (SW early M&Ps had some issues for example).

Quote:
Call it what it is, its a scaled down 1911 in 9mm...
No, it is influenced by the 1911 but is not a true 1911. For example, it does not have the swinging barrel link, grip safety, or other features of a 1911. It is a clone of the Colt Mustang which, in turn, was a clone of the Star DK pistol which was influenced by the 1911.
__________________
Jim's Rules of Carry: 1. Any gun is better than no gun. 2. A gun that is reliable is better than a gun that is not. 3. A hole in the right place is better than a hole in the wrong place. 4. A bigger hole is a better hole.
KyJim is offline  
Old July 3, 2012, 10:12 PM   #19
IMTHDUKE
Senior Member
 
Join Date: September 9, 2004
Location: Sweet Home Alabama
Posts: 1,386
I shoved mine in a P7 holster.

__________________
http://www.treasureislandbedandbreakfast.com
Ed Brown Kobra Carry | HK P7M8, P2000sk, P30s | Sig 1911 C3, P238, P938, P239, P232 | Colt Defender, Mustang Pocketlite, 1911 | Rohrbaugh R9 | Kimber Covert Ultra II | Browning HP, Buckmark 22LR(suppressed) | Walter | PPK(German made 1966) | Kahr PM9 Black Rose | S&W|M&P
IMTHDUKE is offline  
Old September 27, 2012, 08:38 PM   #20
riceman44
Member
 
Join Date: October 24, 2011
Location: Colorado
Posts: 35
Just picked up the P938 Extreme today, price was $679. Did a breakdown/lube and fit was good all the way around. For a sub compact it felt good in my hand, but my wife loves the fit for her smaller hand. Sights are awesome, off to the range Sunday will update.
riceman44 is offline  
Old September 27, 2012, 10:15 PM   #21
mudgun83
Member
 
Join Date: February 17, 2011
Posts: 93
Sig P938

I did buy one, and really like it, though the trigger is a bit heavier to me than the 238. I had a few FTEs in the first two mags through, which I attribute to the gun being pretty stiff (it was). Couple hundred rounds through since then, and absolutely flawless - mix of WWB, Hornaday Critical Defense, and the new DRT frangible rounds. I think Sig learned their lessons from the 238 difficulties, as the 938 is a better pistol from the get-go.
mudgun83 is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 08:32 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.12082 seconds with 9 queries