358 Hoosier ?

Stillhunter · September 26, 2012, 09:35 PM

Did a search on this forum, but nothing came up. Suppose to be a shortened 358 Win to accommodate the 1.8 max. cartridge length in Indiana. Legal for firearm season.
Does anyone have any info or possibly have a rifle chambered for it? If so,what do you think of it?
I,ll Google later,but I want to start here first.

taylorce1 · September 26, 2012, 11:40 PM

Are you sure it isn't a .358 IDH (Indiana Deer Hunter)? IIRC it is a .358 WSSM as it meets the caliber and case length requirements to hunt deer in Indiana with a centerfire rifle. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a shortened .358 Win wildcat out there for Indiana hunting.

old roper · September 27, 2012, 12:50 AM

Stillhunter, Got the wrong site here what your looking for

http://www.shootersforum.com/wildcat...dy-launch.html

doofus47 · September 27, 2012, 04:03 PM

If i read that link right, 25wssm is legal length straight out of the box (as it were).

Am I reading it wrong?

Stillhunter · September 27, 2012, 09:34 PM

DSC_5627.jpg

HoosierDies01.jpg Old Roper,that link is over 2years old,back when max cartridge length was 1.625,now it,s 1.8.
Most of my info has come from co-workers.From what I hear all you need is short action in the 308 Win family,send it to gun shop somewhere in Indiana and they fit the barrel.The brass can be trimmed down from 358 Win.
Here,s a couple of pics my co-worker sent me.The one pick makes you wonder,should I let these guys work on my firearm?

old roper · September 27, 2012, 10:20 PM

Stillhunter, I'm in Co but I've followed little on the short 358 on shooter forum. If you do a search on that forum you find more information on what your looking for and that's the reason I post that site.

FrankenMauser · September 28, 2012, 03:47 AM

So, there's this "old" cartridge called .35 Remington, that would only have to be trimmed 0.120" to be legal......
(If I understand the discussions on several forums properly; it's a case length requirement, not an OAL requirement.)
And if it has to be a wildcat, you can have a machinist/gunsmith stamp the barrel ".35 Remington Hairball" or ".35 Remington-Midget"... or anything else you want.

Call me lazy, but I'd rather trim .35 Remington brass, than rechamber and reconfigure an entire rifle, pay for custom dies, and deal with an absolute wildcat for nothing more than skirting a law that's guaranteed to change again.

Mayor Al · September 28, 2012, 06:49 AM

Is this considered "re-inventing the wheel"? Considering the cost of modifcation, would it not make more economic sense to purchase a firearm in one of the standard calibers rather than develope the 'custom' round?

Stillhunter · September 28, 2012, 10:03 AM

Wow, did a quick search,lots of 358,s kittens out there.The Hoosier is the only one I see a trade mark on it.From what I,ve read this one is going to try to be more commercialized.How,what, when,and where,who knows?I don,t think I,ll see any 358 hoosier ammo in local gun shops any time soon.Sounds like fun though,if you,ve got the money&time.I think I,ll just put it to rest for now.

September 26, 2012, 09:35 PM	#1
Stillhunter Member Join Date: February 1, 2008 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 91	358 Hoosier ? Did a search on this forum, but nothing came up. Suppose to be a shortened 358 Win to accommodate the 1.8 max. cartridge length in Indiana. Legal for firearm season. Does anyone have any info or possibly have a rifle chambered for it? If so,what do you think of it? I,ll Google later,but I want to start here first.

September 26, 2012, 11:40 PM	#2
taylorce1 Senior Member Join Date: November 18, 2005 Location: Colorado Springs, CO & Lubbock, TX Posts: 4,706	Are you sure it isn't a .358 IDH (Indiana Deer Hunter)? IIRC it is a .358 WSSM as it meets the caliber and case length requirements to hunt deer in Indiana with a centerfire rifle. It wouldn't surprise me if there was a shortened .358 Win wildcat out there for Indiana hunting. __________________ NRA Life Member The Truth About Guns

September 27, 2012, 12:50 AM	#3
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 691	Stillhunter, Got the wrong site here what your looking for http://www.shootersforum.com/wildcat...dy-launch.html __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam VFW

September 27, 2012, 04:03 PM	#4
doofus47 Senior Member Join Date: June 9, 2010 Location: live in a in a house when i'm not in a tent Posts: 917	If i read that link right, 25wssm is legal length straight out of the box (as it were). Am I reading it wrong? __________________ I'm right about the metric system 3/4 of the time.

September 27, 2012, 10:20 PM	#6
old roper Senior Member Join Date: June 11, 2007 Posts: 691	Stillhunter, I'm in Co but I've followed little on the short 358 on shooter forum. If you do a search on that forum you find more information on what your looking for and that's the reason I post that site. __________________ Semper Fi Vietnam VFW

September 27, 2012, 09:34 PM	#5
Stillhunter Member Join Date: February 1, 2008 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 91	DSC_5627.jpg HoosierDies01.jpg Old Roper,that link is over 2years old,back when max cartridge length was 1.625,now it,s 1.8. Most of my info has come from co-workers.From what I hear all you need is short action in the 308 Win family,send it to gun shop somewhere in Indiana and they fit the barrel.The brass can be trimmed down from 358 Win. Here,s a couple of pics my co-worker sent me.The one pick makes you wonder,should I let these guys work on my firearm?

September 28, 2012, 03:47 AM	#7
FrankenMauser Senior Member Join Date: August 26, 2008 Location: 1B ID Posts: 5,399	So, there's this "old" cartridge called .35 Remington, that would only have to be trimmed 0.120" to be legal...... (If I understand the discussions on several forums properly; it's a case length requirement, not an OAL requirement.) And if it has to be a wildcat, you can have a machinist/gunsmith stamp the barrel ".35 Remington Hairball" or ".35 Remington-Midget"... or anything else you want. Call me lazy, but I'd rather trim .35 Remington brass, than rechamber and reconfigure an entire rifle, pay for custom dies, and deal with an absolute wildcat for nothing more than skirting a law that's guaranteed to change again. __________________ "Such is the strange way that man works -- first he virtually destroys a species and then does everything in his power to restore it." Last edited by FrankenMauser; September 28, 2012 at 05:52 PM.

September 28, 2012, 06:49 AM	#8
Mayor Al Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2011 Location: Southern Indiana, Near Louisville. Posts: 206	Is this considered "re-inventing the wheel"? Considering the cost of modifcation, would it not make more economic sense to purchase a firearm in one of the standard calibers rather than develope the 'custom' round?

September 28, 2012, 10:03 AM	#9
Stillhunter Member Join Date: February 1, 2008 Location: Southern Indiana Posts: 91	Wow, did a quick search,lots of 358,s kittens out there.The Hoosier is the only one I see a trade mark on it.From what I,ve read this one is going to try to be more commercialized.How,what, when,and where,who knows?I don,t think I,ll see any 358 hoosier ammo in local gun shops any time soon.Sounds like fun though,if you,ve got the money&time.I think I,ll just put it to rest for now.