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Old September 20, 2012, 01:26 AM   #1
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School me on Red-dot sights!

I don't mean the big tubular models, I mean the small "L" shaped, single lens models.

Firstly, they are small: why are they so expensive?!

Secondly, how do they fair in dark conditions?
I had once been told that FO sights are quite clearly visible in low light, but since fitting them to my MkIII 512, I can't say I agree.

Thirdly, do they need to be "zero'ed" as per a scope or could a red-dot be whipped off my MkIII and bolted on my Redhawk (rail permitting) should I be in the mood to shoot that?

Were I to get a red-dot, I would be tempted to put it on my Redhawk.
This is my woods gun. The original sights I have painted with glow-in-the-dark paint, but I still feel target acquisition is slow.

This is no doubt partly practice, but if a compact red-dot sight were to make that faster, that would be good.

My MkIII would be a candidate for it too, if swapping is feasible.
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Old September 20, 2012, 04:20 AM   #2
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The small "L" shapes are small and expensive however they are worth it. I wouldn't depend on it in low light either
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Old September 20, 2012, 06:54 AM   #3
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Why so expensive, all that technology in such a small package that can take a beating.
Yes you have to zero them just like a regular scope.

Before all these smaller red dots came out there were http://www.midwayusa.com/product/783...-polymer-matte
I have had a few for a few years and have beaten the crap out of them. I had one on my Mark2 and loved it.
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Old September 20, 2012, 07:43 AM   #4
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I don't think they are expensive, I paid less then $100 for the one I put on my Ruger Mk III 22/45.

It works quite will. The do have to be adjusted, but its easy to do. They work well in low light conditions and work even in bright conditions.

Well worth the price and effort in my opinion.
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Old September 20, 2012, 10:56 AM   #5
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Are we mixing terminology here?,,,

I thought the tubular sights (like a scope) were Red Dots.

The L-shaped ones like on my Beretta NEOS,,,
Aren't these referred to as Reflex sights?



This one I purchased for $49.95 at Cabela's,,,
Later bought two more on sale for $39.95 apiece.

The only thing wrong with mine is,,,
I sometimes forget to keep spare batteries in the case.

These are great for .22 LR handguns,,,
Ones that would hold up under higher recoil are way more expensive.

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Old September 20, 2012, 12:14 PM   #6
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OK, then perhaps I mean reflex sights. The Burris Fastfire sights are good examples of which style I'm looking at.

The cheapest I've found locally is a "Delta". It is small, it is metal and it needs a mount to it to fit a weaver rail.

€100 for the sight, and about €40-50 for the weaver adaptor! So not that cheap over here, yet again!!

On top of that the weaver rail attachment for my redhawk would be another $45 with $40 for shipping...

Quite an expense in total, so I want to be sure they are worth it. All this because the FO Ruger sights I ordered have failed to turn up this side of the Atlantic!

I may also look at te midway sites, but the German one already seems very steep on the supplies I've already looked at for other aspects of shooting (holsters and reloading)

I understand that if I wanted POA to be 15yds away, then I need to adjust it.
By zeroing, I mean to say tht if I remove it from the Redhawk and thn slide it onto the MkII, will it still give me an accurate POA, at 15 yds, or would I need to readjust again?
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Old September 20, 2012, 12:21 PM   #7
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Hello Mr. Pond,,,

Quote:
or would I need to readjust again?
You will need to readjust it again.

That's been my experience.

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Old September 20, 2012, 01:16 PM   #8
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i like these two

http://www.amazon.com/Leupold-DeltaP.../dp/B003IBAIKA

http://www.amazon.com/Trijicon-RMR-S...d_sim_sbs_sg_9

I wound up going w/ the trijicon 42mm one, i just dont see these small ones being as durable...
http://www.trijicon.com/na_en/produc...p?pid=RX30A-51
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Old September 20, 2012, 02:10 PM   #9
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The small ones are very durable that's one reason for the high price.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AHrG2SQ2010


I've bought cheap ones before and they are not worth it, the least expensive I would go is the Cmore's
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Old September 20, 2012, 04:47 PM   #10
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J-Point Micro Electronic sight. It adjusts dot intensity based on lighting, the darker the light the less dot, sunlight and it is bright. You buy a base for the type of gun you have so it will go into your sight slot with no smithing needed. I have one on one of my Twin G-19's. You can change batteries without having to re-zero it. It is still on its first battery after more than a year. It comes with a hood to place over it if you are storing for a long time. It is rugged and zeroes with ease. The RMR Trijicon series is also another one that is popular and it is larger than the J-Point.
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Old September 24, 2012, 09:54 AM   #11
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I think someone else pointed out the recoil factor in needing a better sight. My thinking would be to get a more midpriced reflex for your Redhawk because of the recoil. You can probably get away with a cheaper one for your Mark. This way you sight them in and don't have to worry about switching them.

Regarding the low light or dark situations, no the reflex sight itself would not really help that situation. Most reflex sights are only putting that reticle on the glass you are looking through, they are doing nothing for iluminating your target.
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