The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > The Harley Nolden Memorial Institute for Firearms Research

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old September 14, 2012, 10:33 PM   #1
Harley55
Junior Member
 
Join Date: September 11, 2012
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2
Sauer & Sohn, Shul M1930 Behorden

I inherited a Behorden Model pistol from my dad. It is in excellent working condition! The SN is 217xxx. Though there is not a police department marking, or a "sunburst" on the left side of the trigger, there is a marking on the slide that I have not seen in any other pictures of this pistol.
I have attached a photo and I would love to know more about the history of this very nice little pistol. Thanks!
Attached Images
File Type: jpg DSC_1784.JPG (210.7 KB, 40 views)
Harley55 is offline  
Old September 15, 2012, 07:16 AM   #2
SDC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 23, 2001
Location: People's Republic of Kanada
Posts: 1,626
The photo is of the Sauer "caveman", a logo that Sauer took from the Prussian coat of arms, and which they used up until the end of the Second World War (the East German conglomerate which assembled all the remaining Suhl gunmakers under one name (the VEB Ernst Thalmann factory) also continued using this mark at least until the 1950s). If your pistol is the 1930 Behorden (instead of the earlier 1930), it should have a loaded-chamber indicator on the rear of the slide knob; at various times, they moved this "caveman" from the top of the slide to the side.
__________________
Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.
SDC is offline  
Old September 15, 2012, 09:41 AM   #3
Harley55
Junior Member
 
Join Date: September 11, 2012
Location: North Carolina
Posts: 2
Thank you!

It does have a loaded chamber indicator. Every trainer at the range and the gunsmith marvel over this pistol. My dad was a WWII vet, but my mom said this, and a little German .22 pistol, which jammed, were given to him by a fellow police officer.

Many years ago, the .22 was taken to someone for an inspection, cleaning, and to see if it could be repaired, and we never got it back. The man had "no recollection" of ever having it and he didn't use claim checks, though he was regarded by those who recommended him, as being reputable. That will not happen with this one!

But I digress...
With the SN in the 217xxx range, is there a way to determine when it was made? And if it wasn't stamped with a police mark, where might it have been?

Thanks in advance!
Harley55 is offline  
Old September 15, 2012, 04:52 PM   #4
SDC
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 23, 2001
Location: People's Republic of Kanada
Posts: 1,626
As far as is known, production of this pistol ended in 1938, with serial numbers around 231,000, so yours would definitely be at the end of that run. HTH.

BTW, I hope the missing 22 wasn't one of the pre-war PPKs; those are VERY collectable.
__________________
Gun control in Canada: making the streets safer for rapists, muggers, and other violent criminals since 1936.
SDC is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 11:11 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.07187 seconds with 10 queries