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Old September 14, 2012, 01:09 PM   #1
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Info required on 12 gauge shotgun

have a 12 gauge shotgun I inherited from my late father-in-law and would like to know more about it. It has an emblem on the stock which I am told is an "Ortgies" emblem. Apparently it was made in Germany but I don't know when and would love to know what it would be worth. There is a link to some information.

http://ortgies.net/ortgies0015.htm

The emblem looks like the one on page 86 of this info but the gun in the picture looks different. Any ideas?
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Old September 14, 2012, 02:19 PM   #2
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Pics are essential.....
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Old September 14, 2012, 07:37 PM   #3
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You need to add some pics of the actual shotgun so people can take a look and give their input.
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Old September 14, 2012, 08:44 PM   #4
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pictures

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Old September 14, 2012, 08:48 PM   #5
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another picture

Sorry having trouble with second picture
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Old September 14, 2012, 08:51 PM   #6
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need a closer and clearer marking pic.

you said this is a 12GA???
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Old September 15, 2012, 07:22 AM   #7
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more info

Sorry but I know very little about guns. I was told it is a 12 gauge. The barrel i.d. is over 1/2 inch.
It seems I know even less about computers as the "emblem" picture from the stock refuses to upload. It looks exactly like the picture on the link I posted earlier. It appears on page 86 of the link
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Old September 15, 2012, 05:23 PM   #8
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I'd have to see some better pics but sure looks like a '98 Mauser from what I can see, wouldn't be a 12ga either. GW
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Old September 15, 2012, 07:55 PM   #9
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Between WWI and WWII, Germany was forbidden to make Military arms and ordnance by the Versailles Treaty.

As a gitover, shotguns built on the actions of 98K Mausers were made, and used for training as well as a utility grade shotgun. They were sold by sundry wholesalers and retailers, including Ortgies.

While not that common, these are not terribly valuable.

IIRC, these were made in 12, 20 and 410.
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Old September 16, 2012, 10:12 AM   #10
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Dave's nailed it.

Samey-same as the GECO bolt-action shotguns made from altering military Mauser 98 rifles.

IIRC, the bolt faces were ground flat so the rimmed shotshells would feed from the magazine, and rebarreled with a smoothbore. (mag held 1 or 2 shells ?)

FYI - 12ga = .729" ID, 20ga = .620" ID, .410 = .410" ID


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