Old School Ammo vs Latest Greatest? - Page 2

marine6680 · September 17, 2012, 11:25 PM

In an old revolver caliber not widely used, the older stuff might be all you have.

Flat nosed bullets moving fast can create a large wound channel.

A SWCHP can expand, and if not, its still a SWC.

Now if we are talking say... 9mm... 40... 45...

And the choice was between some Federal Hydra-Shok and Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot, or Winchester PDX1...

I would go with the newer designs.

Its all about consistent performance over wider ranges of conditions.... and the modern hollow points have more consistent performance over wider performance envelopes and scenarios/situations outside of the norm or ideal.

mrt949 · September 19, 2012, 01:39 AM

Heavy lswc in revolvers .If it was good enough for ELMER KEITH it's good enough for me.

**Spats McGee** · September 19, 2012, 10:51 AM

Yes. Each has its place. I tend towards old school, with .45 acp being my round of choice (for those times when I can carry a full-sized pistol), but I sure do like the looks of some of the modern rounds (Speer Gold Dot, Corbon Powerball, etc).

jad0110 · September 21, 2012, 11:32 PM

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In an old revolver caliber not widely used, the older stuff might be all you have.

Flat nosed bullets moving fast can create a large wound channel.

A SWCHP can expand, and if not, its still a SWC.

Now if we are talking say... 9mm... 40... 45...

And the choice was between some Federal Hydra-Shok and Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot, or Winchester PDX1...

I would go with the newer designs.

Its all about consistent performance over wider ranges of conditions.... and the modern hollow points have more consistent performance over wider performance envelopes and scenarios/situations outside of the norm or ideal.

True. Since revolvers don't have to feed ammo, they can have a good old fashioned soft lead semi wadcutter with a huge hollowpoint and work just fine, a design that won't reliably work in many autos which generally have to employ newer technology to work comparatively as well.

Nanuk · September 22, 2012, 06:57 PM

For self defense there is no valid reason to use anything but the best available.

That being said, some of the "Old School" rounds are still in that category. 9bple, 125 Grain 357 magnum, 180 Grain Remington JHP 44 Magnum.

I prefer the Gold Dot loadings and someone mentioned "Boutique" and Underwood being expensive. I order my 357 Sig ammo from them and it is less expensive than anywhere else I have found.

481 · September 22, 2012, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by mrt949:

Heavy lswc in revolvers .If it was good enough for ELMER KEITH it's good enough for me.

This is my preference, too. Keith knew his wheelguns.

spanishjames · September 22, 2012, 09:38 PM

Cheaper Than Dirt is still selling Federal Hi-Shock 9pm, which some consider old school. I wouldn't feel undergunned using this.

As for modern ammo, I like the Hornady XTP line.

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-4061

September 19, 2012, 01:39 AM	#27
mrt949 Senior Member Join Date: November 16, 2008 Location: CENTRAL FL. Posts: 1,392	Heavy lswc in revolvers .If it was good enough for ELMER KEITH it's good enough for me. __________________ BUY CHEAP GET CHEAP .

September 19, 2012, 10:51 AM	#28
Spats McGee Staff Join Date: July 28, 2010 Location: Arkansas Posts: 3,353	Old School Ammo vs. Latest & Greatest? Yes. Each has its place. I tend towards old school, with .45 acp being my round of choice (for those times when I can carry a full-sized pistol), but I sure do like the looks of some of the modern rounds (Speer Gold Dot, Corbon Powerball, etc). __________________ A gunfight is not the time to learn new skills. If you ever have a real need for more than a couple of magazines, your problem is not a shortage of magazines. It's a shortage of people on your side of the argument. -- Art Eatman

September 22, 2012, 06:57 PM	#30
Nanuk Senior Member Join Date: January 2, 2005 Location: Where the deer and the antelope roam. Posts: 1,431	For self defense there is no valid reason to use anything but the best available. That being said, some of the "Old School" rounds are still in that category. 9bple, 125 Grain 357 magnum, 180 Grain Remington JHP 44 Magnum. I prefer the Gold Dot loadings and someone mentioned "Boutique" and Underwood being expensive. I order my 357 Sig ammo from them and it is less expensive than anywhere else I have found. __________________ My rifle and pistol are tools, I am the weapon.

September 22, 2012, 09:38 PM	#32
spanishjames Senior Member Join Date: April 27, 2010 Posts: 480	Cheaper Than Dirt is still selling Federal Hi-Shock 9pm, which some consider old school. I wouldn't feel undergunned using this. As for modern ammo, I like the Hornady XTP line. http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product/AMM-4061 __________________ Regret for the things we did can be tempered by time; it is regret for the things we did not do that is inconsolable." -Sydney J. Harris

September 17, 2012, 11:25 PM	#26
marine6680 Senior Member Join Date: July 24, 2012 Posts: 361	In an old revolver caliber not widely used, the older stuff might be all you have. Flat nosed bullets moving fast can create a large wound channel. A SWCHP can expand, and if not, its still a SWC. Now if we are talking say... 9mm... 40... 45... And the choice was between some Federal Hydra-Shok and Federal HST, Speer Gold Dot, or Winchester PDX1... I would go with the newer designs. Its all about consistent performance over wider ranges of conditions.... and the modern hollow points have more consistent performance over wider performance envelopes and scenarios/situations outside of the norm or ideal.