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Old September 4, 2012, 10:34 PM   #1
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S&W Model 19 & Model 686

I am looking for some information. I have a S&W Model 19-5, 2 1/2 bbl, nickel, excellent condition and wanted to know as far as trading it for a Model 686, 2 1/2 bbl, stainless. Would it be an even trade or need something from one or the other to make it even? Looking for opinions or advice. Thanks
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Old September 4, 2012, 11:16 PM   #2
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Depends on the day and the buyer or trader, and the condition and amenities with the two guns.

I'd say in general the 686 would command about $100-150 more than a 19-5 in nickel.
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Old September 4, 2012, 11:32 PM   #3
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Around here they trade pretty much even, assuming equal condition.
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Old September 5, 2012, 12:20 AM   #4
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Yeah, I may have been a bit high with that estimate. I was taking into account that the 19-5 does not have the pinned barrel and recessed cylinder of the 19-4, which is more sought-after by collectors, and that nickel finishes appeal to a smaller number of shooters than blue.

Depends on whether you have the factory grips and original box, tools, and paperwork, which can bump the price a bit for collectors or people interested in reselling later.

Also depends on what model of the 686 it is. Pre-lock is more desirable than the current guns (by some buyers).

The 19 has scarcity going for it - they aren't making them anymore. But the new 686s are rather expensive, so that keeps the price of used ones high too.

So I would think that your 19 would sell for between 500 and 650, and a good 686 would sell for between 550 and 750.

That's based on what I've seen on Gunbroker, which may not be a fair representation of your local market.
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Old September 5, 2012, 12:44 AM   #5
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I would actually give a slight edge in value to the M19. While the shorter 2 1/2" barrels typically bring a premium on both models, the nickel finish on the M19 is also less common than blue finish while the 686 only ever came with one finish (or rather lack thereof). Also, K-Frame Magnums, particularly snubs, have been climbing more rapidly in price than L-Frames ever since the M66 was discontinued in 2005.
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Old September 5, 2012, 02:17 PM   #6
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About even trade around here also. Though personally I would keep the model 19, IMHO they looks better than the 686's do.
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Old September 5, 2012, 02:35 PM   #7
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Locally the 19 would bring $50 to $75 more than a pre lock 686 snub.

Having examples of both, I would never trade a model 19 snub for a 686 snub. The 19 carrys better, conceals easier, points more naturally and looks better than any 686 snub I own or have owned.

Good luck with your decision! Regards 18DAI
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Old September 5, 2012, 04:17 PM   #8
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In my area ...the model 19 in Nickel is worth a little more than a model 686...like someone else said, in identical condition....but the 2 values are within
$ 50 of eachother probably..../ although personally, I like both models ...and have some of each in my collection ...I like the model 19's over the 686's...a little...

but they're very similar in terms of value in my view...
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Old September 5, 2012, 05:19 PM   #9
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If you want the 686 and he wants 19, just make the trade without any money involved. It would keep things much simpler.
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Old September 5, 2012, 05:26 PM   #10
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Old September 5, 2012, 07:13 PM   #11
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Ditto freebird.
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Old September 5, 2012, 07:24 PM   #12
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Keep the 19. Not that the trigger pull is bad on the 686, but it will be nowhere near as good as your 19 without a little work.
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Old September 5, 2012, 07:47 PM   #13
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Why would you want to trade away an M-19 2 1/2"? The M-19/66's are considered to be one of the best if not the best combat revolver ever produced.

Remember they are not making any more M-19's, and S&W is producing scads of M-686's.
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Old September 5, 2012, 09:19 PM   #14
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^^^

I agree with Old Bear. The reputation of the M19/M66 is that of a classic!
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Old September 5, 2012, 11:07 PM   #15
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If you want the 686, get it. Don't let everyone say how much better the 19/66 is. While it is indeed a fine fine gun, the 586/686 are just as good. The 19/66 have some aspects that make them better than the 586/686, and the 586/686 have features that make them better than the 19/66. Pick which one you want, and do not look back.
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Old September 6, 2012, 12:37 AM   #16
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I knew I guy once. He wanted to do a trade. Apparently he thought some firearms examiner might be looking for the barrel to match the bullets(s) recovered at a local crime scene. Imagine that.

Sale..No. Trade.....No. All together now, Nnnooooo.
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Old September 6, 2012, 07:03 AM   #17
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I have a model 19 with 4" barrel and would never let it go
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Old September 6, 2012, 08:29 AM   #18
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I had to have both. But, I'm OCD when it comes to K frame 357s.

In a 2 1/2 inch I think I would like the 19 better.

My 4" L frame is a work horse and I do like to shoot it.
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Old September 6, 2012, 09:22 AM   #19
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In my limited search for a 19-3 in great condition vs. a 586/686, I think the 586/686 always commanded $50 - $100. Personally, I saw the pinned and recessed 19-3 as the premium model. I might pay $25 more for the 586, if it mattered.
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Old September 6, 2012, 05:50 PM   #20
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Why in the world would you trade a Model 19 away?
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Old September 6, 2012, 06:11 PM   #21
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So he can get a 686.
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Old September 6, 2012, 07:24 PM   #22
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opinion, and advice:

you'll be sorreeee...
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Old September 9, 2012, 04:24 PM   #23
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Alot of good information and varying opinions. I love the model 19 but I love to shoot magnums and thats why I was considering the swap, because of the potential of the forcing cone failures with the 19, I don't take it to the range often or CCW using target 38's with it. I may just look for a 686 snub and let the 19 rest.
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Old September 9, 2012, 05:57 PM   #24
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Alot of good information and varying opinions. I love the model 19 but I love to shoot magnums and thats why I was considering the swap, because of the potential of the forcing cone failures with the 19, I don't take it to the range often or CCW using target 38's with it. I may just look for a 686 snub and let the 19 rest.
You're only likely to have problems with your M19 if you feed it a steady diet of full-power .357 Magnum ammo loaded with lightweight (<140gr) bullets. If you restrict its diet to .38 Special ammo or .357 Magnum ammo loaded with heavier bullets, you'll probably be passing the gun on to your children and grandchildren.

The best explanation of K-Frame forcing cone issues I've ever found can be read here:

http://www.gunblast.com/Butch_MagnumLoads.htm
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Old September 9, 2012, 06:17 PM   #25
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Although I have told you to make the trade if you want, however, if you are trading your snub 19 for a 686 snub, I probably would not do it. The reason being, I would always rather have a 19 snub as opposed to a 686 snub for the sheer fact the 19 makes for a better snub nose gun.

With that being said, if you still want to make the trade, do it. They are both fine weapons. I might suggest you keep the 19 and save up for a snub 686. It will be much easier to find a snub 686 than it will be to find another snub 19.
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