NAA 22's and Magnums

[bigghoss]

I had one and shot it a bunch. The small grips, recoil of the .22 magnum, and single action make it very impracticable and a defensive gun in addition to the fact that .22 magnum is less that desirable for SD. I carry at least a 9mm whenever possible (or at least I used to before I moved to another state and have to get a new CCL) Sometimes it's uncomfortable but oh well.

[coyota1]

I have both a mini 22lr, and a magnum, and I carry them often. I can actually hit with them at 10 feet. I have practiced with them a lot. If you plan on carrying one, you need to practice due to their limitations. It becomes second nature to draw back the hammer as I draw the gun. I have holsters for both so they don't tumble around in my pocket. The holsters are designed to stay in the pocket. Remember... a 22 in the hand is better than a 44 back in the car.

[stormyone]

Budda wrote

novelty....nothing more....

"remove the front sight if you plan on carring it........" you know the rest.

I have a NAA 22mag and I can hit inside an 8" circle at 10 yards.

You think I need to remove the front sight? Or is that still a novelty to you?

[FLChinook]

I don't yet have an NAA but have a friend who has several and I've fired his. He likes the mag best but the argument presented here that the short barrels don't give a bigger casing much advantage seems logical. I'd like to see some velocity data for the short barrel and short vs LR vs mag.

Regarding stopping power, no .22 will be as good as a bigger caliber. It seems to me the great advantage in this little gun is the NOISE. Thankfully, I've not needed to protect life by firing at a BG but I believe anyone trying to mug me in an alley would be instantly in terror at the noise and flash of this little gun (unless the BG was armed with a bigger gun, of course, but they often are thieves of opportunity and act on surprise and speed rather than firepower).

[Dashunde]

Well I picked up a 1 1/8" standard 22LR yesterday.. cool little gun really.
I went with the 22LR instead of the magnum because its 3/4" shorter, the grip is smaller, and it was cheaper, same for the ammo.

Absolutely perfect for Levis... it fits right in the change pocket!

I may also pick up a Pug too, someday...

[coyota1]

Make sure when you practice to keep a tight grip, and keep your thumb away from the cylinder, or you will bleed. NAA ballistics show stingers as having the most most ft lbs of energy of the 22 long rifle loads.

[Biff Tannen]

All:
For those of you with big hands like mine, draw while using your thumb to lever the hammer back. Works every time for me, I can draw and fire as fast as a double-action...
For a holster, I use a suede mag case that has a clip on it (I think it's for a .380 mag, I found it at a gunshow). The NAA mini fits snugly into it, I wear it in the belt or in the boot. 100% reliable!
PS- I do recommend the laselyte laser for it for quick aim. It's an amazing little thing and their customer service is outstanding!
Stay safe and god bless!

[2cooltoolz]

Originally Posted by FLChinook

I'd like to see some velocity data for the short barrel and short vs LR vs mag.

This should keep you entertained:
http://northamericanarms.com/ballistics

[Redhawk5.5+P+]

Were do you live?

[tulsamal]

My choice is the four inch version with dual cylinders. Have used it as a BUG for years. With the longer barrel I get much better velocity and I can use it in the field and on fishing trips. The Mini Master is what I think NAA calls it. Even has real sights.

Gregg

[Microgunner]

How about this one for those special occasions.

http://northamericanarms.com/firearm...breskigun.html

[Dashunde]

Finally went and shot the standard non-magnum 22lr today, fun!
Much less kick than I thought it would have on ordinary Federal bulk.
I also found it easy to shoot quickly at ~10 foot.
I like the little thing, cool gun.

Now I'm thinking about adding a magnum.
How much more kick do they have?

[Crazy88Fingers]

*DISCLAIMER: My glove size is Small.*

I picked up one of these .22 magnum NAA Minis in a trade a few months back, and finally shot it the other day with some Hornady Critical Defense. The recoil was barely there, and it was surprisingly accurate at 7 yards. Nothing like the horror stories I've read on these forums.

It has seldom left my pocket since.

[Onward Allusion]

I have Minis in 1 1/8" 22LR & 1 5/8" 22 Mag. I wear medium size gloves. They are a pain to manipulate. Recoil is non-existent. Accuracy is right where it should be for a belly gun.

Keep in mind that an empty Mini in 22 Mag is just as heavy as an empty P32. I would rather have 8 rounds of 32ACP from a DAO pistol than 5 shots of 22 Mag from a single action mini revolver.

IMO, weight is one of the main issues with much of the NAA product line. They are touted as sub-sub-compact guns but there is no weight advantage to them.

[coyota1]

I have a NAA mini mag, and it handles very good. You need to get used to the single action. I can do it second nature. Carries very easy.

[noelf2]

I shoot Hornady Critical Defense .22mag in my 1 1/8 NAA mini. Haven't checked with a chrono but supposed to use pistol powder vs. rifle powder so you get more powder burning in the smaller barrels. Ups velocity, and the bullet is supposed to expand very well from 2" barrels. Not sure about the smaller barrels like mine, but it has to be better than average .22 mag rifle ammo. Cases are nickel, so you can leave them in the cylinder day after day and less likely to corrode in there. I have no trouble thumbing the hammer on mine with the standard wood grips, but I've practiced. Great back up gun.

[coyota1]

I should get some critical defense stuff. It must be fairly new since I'm not aware of it. I would guess the bullets perform better than regular rifle ammo. And yes, you need to practice with one of these guns, and even more so than a conventional handgun. I wear xl gloves, and I have no trouble handling the mini mag. There is no substitute for practice.

[Crazy88Fingers]

The Hornady stuff is fairly new. Winchester and Speer are also making short barrel .22 mag ammo for self-defense.

In response to the P-32 comparison earlier: I actually traded a P-32 for the NAA I have now.

For some reason I just couldn't work the slide on that thing without covering the ejection port. So unloading the gun was an interesting process, to say the least. Fuggetabout clearing a jam. Cocking the hammer on this little revolver is much easier for me.

[Dashunde]

I really like that I can carry this little NNA-22lr around in any pocket with the hammer dropped into the in-between notch with zero worries.

I dont know of any tiny hammered poly auto that I can do that with.

[Onward Allusion]

Crazy88Fingers
<SNIP>In response to the P-32 comparison earlier: I actually traded a P-32 for the NAA I have now.

Hey, if it works, I don't think anyone is gonna knock it. The P-32's slide is a bit difficult to rack, especially when new. I have 3M Traction tape on some of my harder to rack pistols. Ugly but it works!

[coyota1]

The NAA is 8 oz. What does the p 32 weigh?

[Bill DeShivs]

9 OZ.

[Dashunde]

Not sure what NAA-22xxx you guys are weighing, by my NAA-22LR is 4 measly ounces.
It weighs the same as my CR Sebenza pocket knife.

[coyota1]

I have both NAA revolvers. The issue I have with auto loaders in a defense situation is throwing casings.

[Onward Allusion]

The discussion was about NAA Mini in 22 Mag. The 1 5/8" barrel version weighs 6.2 oz empty. The P-32 weighs 6.6 oz unloaded. P-32 loaded is about 9.4 oz. The NAA Mini in 22 Mag with 1 5/8" barrel, about 7.2 oz loaded.