44/45 Magnum VS. 45-70 Do_All-Levergun - Page 4

wilkup · September 26, 2012, 08:05 PM

Found some ammunition =)
Took it to the range and got it sighted in.
Got my tags for this season.
Heading out to find some bears this weekend!
Hope you like the pics =) and thanks for the help everyone!

wilkup · September 26, 2012, 08:06 PM

YIKES! How do I resize those pics to a normal size? That's impossible to see and no fun at all =(

Buckeye! · September 27, 2012, 12:09 AM

45/70 White Tails to Hippos anything in between

http://www.leverguns.com/articles/lupo/lupo.htm

CCCLVII · September 27, 2012, 10:58 PM

Id go with the 45/70. You can load some trailboss under a 300 grain bullet for real easy shooting all the way to crazy loads. The 45/70 has a lot of selection. I have seen bullets as light as 250 grains all the way up to cast bullets of 550 grains.

While personally I would not take a 45/70 to hunt DG in Africa it would be perfectibility suitable for plains animals. I know there are people that have hunted Black Death with the 45/70 and I feel it is capable of killing any animal on earth but I don't think it is a stopping rifle. Until I went to Africa I would not of believed it. But when you see a buffalo up close you feel under gunned with any thing (in my case a 458 Lott).

For american game I think the 45/70 would be just fine as long as the shooter can shoot well with it. If you are able to adjust for long range shots and judge distances well (its harder than you think) the 45/70 would make a fine Alaska gun. But I feel that most people would be better served with a faster bolt gun.

Sorry I got to rambling there. I love the 45/70 Its one of my favorite rounds but I think many people think its more than it is. It is not an Elephant round. But as a general do all caliber I think its very capable of any thing you will see this side of the pond.

p.s. hunting in Africa is not much more than hunting Alaska (out side of the flight). Again sorry for rambling on, i just get nostalgic with the 45/70.

giboshi · October 25, 2012, 02:53 PM

I agree the 45-70 gov is a great cal for BIG game. I have a 30-06 and a 30-30 for smaller game.

So I bought a Rossi 45-70 lever Rio Grande. Out of the box, the lever action locked up - - sent back to factory. Two months later they said they could not fix it so sent me a new one. Tried to test fire the gun and it missed fired every time. Also the lever was so loose that it would open under normal handeling, like adding a scope. TOOK IT BACK

Bought a Marlin 1894 45-70 and the action is night and day better than that Rossi. My gunsmith said that the Rossi manufacturing has gone down hill with cheaper steel and manufacturing standards - I can believe it.

Too bad Marlin was bought by Remington - May be the death nell for any new marlion levers.

I added a Busnell Yardage Pro rangefinder scope - a must for the longer shots with the 45-70.

Axelwik · October 25, 2012, 09:39 PM

44 Mag and 45 Colt are for a revolver. If you're going to get a rifle, you might as well go with a rifle cartridge to take full advantage. That's one of the reasons I have a 45-70.

One train of thought, however, is to have a rifle with the same cartridge as your handgun, but in many cases (especially when shooting cast bullets) the rifle won't bore the same diameter as the handgun. You'd still have to load them separately (and size the bullets differently if you cast your own).

Edward429451 · October 26, 2012, 10:03 AM

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most people would be better served with a faster bolt gun.

Bolt guns cycle faster than a Lever Action? This is news to me. I can cycle my LA faster than any Bolt gun I've ever shot. Am I doing something wrong?

hornetguy · October 27, 2012, 05:29 PM

He's obviously never seen Lucas McCain in action...

View Poll Results: What would your do-it-all levergun chamber?
44 Mag	31	23.48%
45 Colt	7	5.30%
45-70 Gov	77	58.33%
Other	17	12.88%
Voters: 132. You may not vote on this poll

September 26, 2012, 08:05 PM	#76
wilkup Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Pacific North West Posts: 188	Pics =) Found some ammunition =) Took it to the range and got it sighted in. Got my tags for this season. Heading out to find some bears this weekend! Hope you like the pics =) and thanks for the help everyone!

September 27, 2012, 10:58 PM	#79
CCCLVII Senior Member Join Date: April 16, 2012 Location: Idaho Posts: 231	Id go with the 45/70. You can load some trailboss under a 300 grain bullet for real easy shooting all the way to crazy loads. The 45/70 has a lot of selection. I have seen bullets as light as 250 grains all the way up to cast bullets of 550 grains. While personally I would not take a 45/70 to hunt DG in Africa it would be perfectibility suitable for plains animals. I know there are people that have hunted Black Death with the 45/70 and I feel it is capable of killing any animal on earth but I don't think it is a stopping rifle. Until I went to Africa I would not of believed it. But when you see a buffalo up close you feel under gunned with any thing (in my case a 458 Lott). For american game I think the 45/70 would be just fine as long as the shooter can shoot well with it. If you are able to adjust for long range shots and judge distances well (its harder than you think) the 45/70 would make a fine Alaska gun. But I feel that most people would be better served with a faster bolt gun. Sorry I got to rambling there. I love the 45/70 Its one of my favorite rounds but I think many people think its more than it is. It is not an Elephant round. But as a general do all caliber I think its very capable of any thing you will see this side of the pond. p.s. hunting in Africa is not much more than hunting Alaska (out side of the flight). Again sorry for rambling on, i just get nostalgic with the 45/70. __________________ "I ask, Sir, What is the militia?" "Its the whole of the people. To disarm the people is the best and most effectual way to enslave them" -George Mason Co-Author of the second amendment.

October 25, 2012, 02:53 PM	#80
giboshi Junior Member Join Date: October 25, 2012 Posts: 1	Rossi 45-70 Rio Grande I agree the 45-70 gov is a great cal for BIG game. I have a 30-06 and a 30-30 for smaller game. So I bought a Rossi 45-70 lever Rio Grande. Out of the box, the lever action locked up - - sent back to factory. Two months later they said they could not fix it so sent me a new one. Tried to test fire the gun and it missed fired every time. Also the lever was so loose that it would open under normal handeling, like adding a scope. TOOK IT BACK Bought a Marlin 1894 45-70 and the action is night and day better than that Rossi. My gunsmith said that the Rossi manufacturing has gone down hill with cheaper steel and manufacturing standards - I can believe it. Too bad Marlin was bought by Remington - May be the death nell for any new marlion levers. I added a Busnell Yardage Pro rangefinder scope - a must for the longer shots with the 45-70.

October 27, 2012, 05:29 PM	#83
hornetguy Senior Member Join Date: January 14, 2011 Location: on the north side of DFW Posts: 710	He's obviously never seen Lucas McCain in action... __________________ I always felt that if I got to the point where I thought it was time to bury my firearms, it was actually time to pick them up..

September 26, 2012, 08:06 PM	#77
wilkup Senior Member Join Date: January 21, 2009 Location: Pacific North West Posts: 188	YIKES! How do I resize those pics to a normal size? That's impossible to see and no fun at all =(

September 27, 2012, 12:09 AM	#78
Buckeye! Senior Member Join Date: September 1, 2008 Posts: 325	45/70 White Tails to Hippos anything in between http://www.leverguns.com/articles/lupo/lupo.htm

October 25, 2012, 09:39 PM	#81
Axelwik Senior Member Join Date: March 12, 2012 Location: Land of Enchantment Posts: 203	44 Mag and 45 Colt are for a revolver. If you're going to get a rifle, you might as well go with a rifle cartridge to take full advantage. That's one of the reasons I have a 45-70. One train of thought, however, is to have a rifle with the same cartridge as your handgun, but in many cases (especially when shooting cast bullets) the rifle won't bore the same diameter as the handgun. You'd still have to load them separately (and size the bullets differently if you cast your own).