The Firing Line Forums

Go Back   The Firing Line Forums > The Skunkworks > Handloading, Reloading, and Bullet Casting

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old August 28, 2012, 03:16 PM   #1
Shootest
Senior Member
 
Join Date: February 9, 2011
Location: Just outside Cleveland, Ohio
Posts: 617
Which sizer?

Which sizer/luber do you use?

And which one do you recommend for a new caster?
__________________
The private ownership of firearms is an American Heritage. Anyone who disputes that is Anti-American and unpatriotic.
NRA Life Member
http://s1096.photobucket.com/albums/g327/Wynn3/
Shootest is offline  
Old August 28, 2012, 03:18 PM   #2
jmortimer
Junior member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2010
Location: South West Riverside County California
Posts: 2,763
I like Lee Precision but would suggest checking out Cast Boolits site for more info on sizer choice.
jmortimer is offline  
Old August 28, 2012, 03:34 PM   #3
johnjohn
Senior Member
 
Join Date: November 6, 2009
Location: Baton Rouge La.
Posts: 109
Lyman 4500 w/out heater. Works good but it's the only one I've owned so I'm not much of a judge.
johnjohn is offline  
Old August 28, 2012, 10:47 PM   #4
jmortimer
Junior member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2010
Location: South West Riverside County California
Posts: 2,763
Was over at Cast Boolits web site and found this new thread from today, 8-28-12, which is useful:
http://castboolits.gunloads.com/showthread.php?t=163506
jmortimer is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 07:49 AM   #5
YARDDOG(1)
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 24, 2008
Location: GATOR COUNTRY HA HA HA!
Posts: 686
+1 on Lee's for the $$ can't beat em ; )
Y/D
__________________
There's a GATOR in the bushes & She's Callin my name
>Molly Hatchett<
YARDDOG(1) is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 08:58 AM   #6
jcwit
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 28, 2007
Location: Upper Indiana
Posts: 593
Got 2 of the older Lyman 45's that I've been using for years and years now with no problems.

Paid a total of $35.00 for the 2 of them.
__________________
U.S. Army Veteran
NRA Certified Range Officer
jcwit is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 09:12 AM   #7
Vance
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 16, 2011
Location: North Bend, OR
Posts: 478
I had a Lyman 4500. It worked OK. I then saw a video on the net of someone using a star sizer and was impressed with the ease and speed of it. Drop a bullet in nose first and pull the handle. Repeat untill you have done all your bullets. The sized and lubed bullets fall out the bottom of the star into a catch bin you place there. I bought one and sold the lyman.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCtLi8i7tMg
Vance is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 09:13 AM   #8
jcwit
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 28, 2007
Location: Upper Indiana
Posts: 593
Well the Star is only approx a hundred bucks more than a new Lyman lube/sizer. But I'm no longer in a hurry for much of anything pertaining to my hobbies.

Retirement is a wonderful thing! To bad it comes so late in life!!
__________________
U.S. Army Veteran
NRA Certified Range Officer

Last edited by jcwit; August 29, 2012 at 09:26 AM.
jcwit is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 09:14 AM   #9
jmortimer
Junior member
 
Join Date: January 24, 2010
Location: South West Riverside County California
Posts: 2,763
Star sizer does seem to be the fan favorite. No surprise that it costs a bundle but appears to be well worth the $$$ if you can afford it.
jmortimer is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 12:04 PM   #10
Smokey Joe
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 14, 2001
Location: State of Confusion
Posts: 2,064
Sizer/luber...

Shootist--Pretty new caster myself. I use an old Lyman #45. It DOES fit on the Lyman heater, you just have to angle it, and then use only 2 of the 4 screw holes. Use it with Lyman's Orange Magic bullet lube, and it works slick for .45 ACP and .357 Magnum bullets.

2 screw holes are enough--the #45 has a heavy cast base, and we're not swaging elephant bullets down to .222, we're just knocking a thousandth or so off a cast lead bullet.

You may find a Lyman #450 or #4500--both of those fit perfectly on the Lyman heater as is; that's what that heater is made for.

By all means you want the heater, and the bullet lube made to apply heated--the room-temperature stuff will still be soft and sticky at room temperature, and some will get on some of your bullets' noses, and then they are sticky also. The heated stuff firms up @ room temp.

Used sizer/lubers are often available @ gun shows, or sometimes your LGS will take one in trade. Used is no problem--it's such a simple device that you can spot any bent or broken parts, or other abuse, right away.

A different brand than a Lyman will probably work just as well. No experience there, tho'. Buy what you find used, at a low price.
__________________
God Bless America

--Smokey Joe
Smokey Joe is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 04:12 PM   #11
jcwit
Senior Member
 
Join Date: October 28, 2007
Location: Upper Indiana
Posts: 593
Smoky Joe, thanks for the input regarding that the currently available Lyman heaters do work with the older 345 Lube/Sizer.

The option I have been using is nothing more that the brooder lamps available at a farm supply store. I use either a small spot light bulb or a 100 watt bulb. Yup I have enough bulbs to last me the rest of my life without stooping to the pretzel bulbs.
__________________
U.S. Army Veteran
NRA Certified Range Officer
jcwit is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 07:42 PM   #12
GP100man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 1, 2007
Location: Tabor City , NC.
Posts: 1,914
This is my opinion only :

The Star is nice once ya get it set up ,but hard to change over or should I say a little more tideous, but again if ya shoot alot of 1 kind of bullet get it set up & roll on !

The Lyman types are sufficent for my needs & simple enuff to change over to a different bullet or caliber, I have 2 Lyman 450s & have 2 differnt lubes ,just change the dies & top punch to suit my needs.

I really think of a Star when running a 500 batch though.

Just as Smokey Joe suggested used ones are around just look for bent/ broken & worn parts , the main thing to check is to see if the ram has any wobble, the rest of the parts are fairly reasonable.

Here`s 1 of my Lymans I picked up cheap & it has a little wobble & I updated the toggle system for less than 20 bucks. the new ram did take some of the wobble out & it does a fine job.

__________________
GP100man
GP100man is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 10:02 PM   #13
Vance
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 16, 2011
Location: North Bend, OR
Posts: 478
I didn't think my star was any more difficult to set up than the 4500 was.
Vance is offline  
Old August 29, 2012, 10:15 PM   #14
jimkim
Senior Member
 
Join Date: July 3, 2008
Location: middle GA
Posts: 319
I use a 450. I want a Lachmiller. Both will work. The RCBS is the current version of the Lachmiller, but I still want the original. Don't overlook SAECO while you're shopping.
__________________
Jan. 4, 2007 gasoline $2.10 gal....HMMM?
jimkim is offline  
Old August 30, 2012, 08:32 PM   #15
GP100man
Senior Member
 
Join Date: August 1, 2007
Location: Tabor City , NC.
Posts: 1,914
A buddy had bought a Star & we had a heck of a time gettin the lube to hit the groove until we actually took the die out & took measurements , then gettin the lube plunger delivery just rite , but after it was set ya could do a hundred in no time !!!
__________________
GP100man
GP100man is offline  
Old August 30, 2012, 10:05 PM   #16
Vance
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 16, 2011
Location: North Bend, OR
Posts: 478
Lots of videos on how to use the star over on castboolits. Not really that difficult.
Vance is offline  
Old August 30, 2012, 10:51 PM   #17
c.j.sikes
Senior Member
 
Join Date: March 21, 2006
Location: marlow okla
Posts: 226
i like the star but it can not be used for gas check so i have a lyman 4500 w/heater. i also use diff. lub for each. cjs
c.j.sikes is offline  
Old August 31, 2012, 08:48 AM   #18
Vance
Senior Member
 
Join Date: January 16, 2011
Location: North Bend, OR
Posts: 478
Yes you can put gas checks on with a star. I've done about 5000 SWC so far with no problem. Just have to use a properly sized punch.
Vance is offline  
Old August 31, 2012, 09:19 AM   #19
Robert Palermo
Member
 
Join Date: June 30, 2010
Location: Home of the Steelers
Posts: 51
The Star is very good machine and I use it to put gas checks on as well. I run the bullets thru base first and it swages the check right into place.

The RCBS is good as well but slower and the dies cost less than the Star which runs about 50.00 a pop these days.

The Redding while I have not tried it seems to be typical of Redding in that it looks very well made.

Base heaters for any of them are a good idea to make the process easier.

The main differance is speed and as we all know speed costs.
__________________
www.pennbullets.com
Robert Palermo is offline  
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump


All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:22 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2014, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
This site and contents, including all posts, Copyright © 1998-2014 S.W.A.T. Magazine
Copyright Complaints: Please direct DMCA Takedown Notices to the registered agent: thefiringline.com
Contact Us
Page generated in 0.10228 seconds with 7 queries