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Old October 2, 2013, 02:46 PM   #51
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Verk, I am very sorry to hear of your problem. I may have missed it, but what arm is bad, is that your dominant hand, and will you have the use of your upper arm? Those questions bear a lot on your gun choice and the way you adapt. Whether we like it or not, most auto pistols are set up for a right handed shooter and some guns simply cannot be easily operated with one hand.

I know a man who lost his left forearm in VN and who shoots both a revolver and an auto pistol. To load an auto pistol, he sticks the gun under his left arm or in his belt, inserts the magazine, then pushes the slide against his shoe heel (or the shooting bench or anything handy) to load the chamber. On a range, where the gun could sweep someone, he lays it on the loading bench to load.

With a revolver, (S&W) he swings out the cylinder the same way anyone else does, sticks index and middle finger into the cylinder window, pushes the ejector rod with his thumb. Then he sticks the revolver in his belt (he says 4"-6" barrel is better for this), or on the bench, with the cylinder open, and reloads. Then he closes the cylinder and resumes firing.

He can't use a Ruger .22, but has used a High Standard, working the slide with one hand by grasping the gun with the fingers over the slide and the thumb at the rear, or by using the rear sight as a point to push against.

He has a loading block that holds magazines upright while he loads them. I don't recall seeing him load or use a speedloader.

(I have to consider recommending a Jo-Lo-Ar or a Lignose a rather poor attempt at humor; neither is likely to be in the case at a local gun shop.)

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Old October 2, 2013, 08:12 PM   #52
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Back in the '90's I competed in weekly USPSA-style matches with a man who had the use of only his right arm. I assumed he was using a Glock, but a friend pointed out that it was actually a 1911. I don't recall him having any special difficulties he had beyond shooting with one hand.
As a side note, there was a Hungarian ISU competitor who won a gold medal in the Olympics shooting with his right hand and then when that hand was injured, won a gold medal with his left. 25 meter rapid fire. Very inspiring - at least to me.

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Old October 2, 2013, 08:51 PM   #53
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One hand

Yep.
Karoly Takacs : Olympic Rapid fire GOLD in both the 1948 and 1952 Olympics.
Right injured by a grenade in 1938,
Olympic rapid fire:the basic course is six strings of five shots each. Two are five shots in eight seconds, each shot at a different bull. The two strings each fired in six seconds and then two each fired in four seconds. One hand unsupported at 25 yards.

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Old October 3, 2013, 12:18 AM   #54
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Semi-auto pistols for one-handed operation...

In my opinion, I would look into a 9x19mm(9mm Luger) with full ambi-controls that you could quickly operate under stress or with gloves.
Some brands to look at(depending on your budget or tastes):
The Walther PPX or PPQ M2; the new PPX has large easy to see 3 dot sights, it's hammer fired & DA only(no cocking or hammer spurs), full ambi controls. The PPQ costs more but it's got a good backing from many Walther owners all over.
The HK P2000 or P2000sk LEM(law enforcement modification); it's a robust, well engineered pistol that you can buy in 9mm or .40. The controls are on both sides & the LEM format is DA only.
The PX4 C(constant) or the PX4 Compact(with full ambi controls). I owned a PX4 C 9mm in 2009. It was great. The semi auto offers low recoil, easy to clean/field strip, has 17rd magazines(in the 9x19mm caliber), and it has only the slide release & magazine release(that can be switched).
The P250 line from SIG Sauer; the DA only pistol, like the Beretta PX4 C model, is easy to carry, easy to strip/clean, comes in multiple calibers(9mm, .40, .45acp). The P250 can be quickly converted to a full size, compact or sub-compact. You just switch the fire control system, barrels & pistol magazines.
NOTE; in 2013, the SIG P250 polymer frames might be hard to buy or obtain due to the huge demand for magazines/parts/weapons.
In general, Id look at the 9x19mm caliber over the more powerful .357sig, .40S&W, 10mm, or .45acp. You can pack more rounds(15/17/20/30 etc) & be more prepared to fend off a attack. The 9mm, to most shooters has low recoil so it's better to shoot one handed.
A green or red laser aimer/laser-grip might be worth adding too.

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Old October 3, 2013, 01:29 AM   #55
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So you might be down a hand.
I'm truly sorry to hear that and I feel for your loss.

But as something perhaps inspirational, check out this gentleman...


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tlMz2sCDCA4
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Old October 3, 2013, 10:45 AM   #56
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Sorry about the arm damage. Fight on.

To offer an additional option, the cz100, although much maligned on line, comes with a ledge built into the slide so the user can rack one handed.
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Old October 5, 2013, 11:59 AM   #57
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Hey just watched a video on YouTube for glock sights that allow you to cock it in one hand just by making a fist with one hand. Video title was "milproakron exclusive - review of the occluder gunsight" hope this helps
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Old October 5, 2013, 12:28 PM   #58
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I am very sorry to hear about the eventual amputation you are facing. That would something I imagine would be very tough to KNOW was coming.

My advice is you get something that you are able to rack the slide by pushing it against the edge of a table or squeezing it between your knees and pushing away from you. Another thing to look at is getting a rear sight that is a "hook" design. Basically, something that you could catch on your belt or table edge to rack the slide. In the image below, note how tall that rear sight is and the front face is straight so that you could easily push it against a table edge or catch it on your belt edge to rack the slide.




Whatever it is it would probably be in your best interest to get some aggressive, likely more aggressive than factory offered (except maybe S&W M&P, they work EXTREMELY well) slide serrations. Might have the serrations added to the top as well like below.



Watch this to see what I am talking about when I refer to catching the rear sight on your belt

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Old October 5, 2013, 01:19 PM   #59
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Hi Verk, sorry to hear about your troubles but well done for getting on with what you want to do!

My take would be this:

Get a Sig P226 or P228 and here is why I think it:

1) Single action / double action trigger
- Double 1 handed I find difficult but possible and single action is easy. Also, you can cock the hammer to go single action with one hand and your thumb, no problem
2) Very reliable pistol - Never will you be worried about it'll work
3) Decent mag. capacity (I like the MecGar 17rds for my 226)
4) lots of holsters to choose from
5) plenty of options for customising sights etc if you want something you can rack on clothing

Anyway, that's what I recommend, whatever you choose, I wish you much happy shooting!

ATB,

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Old October 5, 2013, 01:41 PM   #60
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Old October 6, 2013, 06:55 AM   #61
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I'm sure it's already been pointed out by now, but shooting a semi one-handed presents many difficulties. Not the least of which is stove piping, and clearing those and other jams. Plus, I'm pretty sure using the shooting bench or my belt to rack a slide would draw some negative attention my way from the local range officers.

On another thread I saw this Tanfoglio pistol that has a charging handle on the side of the slide...

I'm thinking it wouldn't be too hard to modify most semi-autos to have one of those. Food for thought.

All things considered, a revolver is certainly the way to go, especially if it's going to see any serious use. A good steel frame will soak up a lot of the recoil. Cock the hammer back for real easy single action shots. Most calibers offer a wide variety of ammunition with varying degrees of power. A .327 magnum revolver would be great. A .38 or .357 as well. Perhaps one with moon clips would be more fun and convenient at the range.
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Old October 6, 2013, 04:25 PM   #62
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Whatever it is it would probably be in your best interest to get some aggressive, likely more aggressive than factory offered (except maybe S&W M&P, they work EXTREMELY well) slide serrations.
What good will aggressive slide serrations do for someone with one arm? Hard to imagine any slide serrations aggressive enough to hook on a table, belt, etc.
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Old October 6, 2013, 05:39 PM   #63
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Welcome to the forum! In reading your post, let me first say that I am sorry for the way things are turning out - but, when God closes a door he opens another.

In regards to the use of only one eland - you will adapt over time. Whatever you do, don't let it rule your life but instead, use it as a means to overcome the situation. May years ago, when I was going to Friendship, IN for the NMLRA Nationals, there was a fellow there who had no left arm from the shoulder down. It was amazing to watch him load and shoot his muzzleloader. He had a leather thong tied to the trigger guard which he would clamp in his mouth to help steady the rifle while he utilized his right to fire.

I was a firefighter for a number of years and a neighboring township had a firefighter who also was missing his left arm. He couldl do more work than anyone I have ever seen from hauling house to sitting on a Keeny Loop directing the nozzle of a 2 1/2" line under high pressure.

In a nutshell, a person can do whatever they set their mind to.

I would think that if you had a semi-auto that you could easily drop magazines and insert new ones. It might require some sort of fixture or holder at a range so that the semi is pointed down range and held secure enough to insert the magazine back in. On something like the 1911 platform, the slide will be held back after the last shot so you could release it with your thumb utilizing the slide lock release. I think you would just have to go to a range or a bigger gun shop, get someone who has some brains to wait on you and see what make/model could possibly work out best for you.

If necessary, I wouldn't rule out revolvers either. A revolver with a swing out cylinder should be easily released and with a tilt, the cylinder swing out. You might have to lay it down in order to eject but is is doable. As far as loading - I can visualize some sort of heavy base with a dowel or brass rod that points up smaller than the bore of the pistol. You could slide the barrel over the dowel/rod so that the back of the cylinder is pointing up, load your cartridges and snap cylinder back in to place. remove the pistol from the rod and shoot.

Hopefully you will find a solution to fit your needs. Life is too short not to enjoy it and if you enjoy shooting, then I wouldn't be afraid to ask for help. There is nothing wrong - we all need help of one sort or another. Maybe a friend that could help you load (I have no suggestions for loading semi-magazines but perhaps some will). Personally, if I was at a range and saw somebody that needed some assistance, I would be more than happy to give them a hand loading or even cleaning if they needed it so they could enjoy the sport. That's what it's all about.

My very best to you - ou'll be in our thoghts and prayers and please let us know how it works out for you. Determination can overcome anything!
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Old October 6, 2013, 06:47 PM   #64
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Welcome to the forum. Sorry for your situation. Hate to see fellow shooters have a life altering scenerio of this magnitude. I actually have a little information that I learned from my grandfather. In the early 90's, my grandfather had a stroke and loss the use of his left arm. He was extremely deflated and sold off most of his guns. Some were gorgeous Browning shotguns and a couple custom built Model 70's that he designed in his garage. One was a .270IHMSA (think thats what it was called). It was based on the .257 Roberts that was shortened and fireformed for the barrel. Think of the 6.8spc but 20 years before it was introduced.

Back on subject, my grandfather prefered wheel guns because he could re-load the rounds as light or as heavy as he wanted. To this day he only has a couple of autos (1911 .22, Sig 226, Sig 229, Remington Rand 1911). I would suggest something like a S&W 686 in .357 with a 4" barrel. Normally I would recommend a 6" barrel for more fps but in your situation, I think the 4" would be much more balanced and easier for you to handle. Now others may recommend the Ruger sp100 or 101 and they are fine pistols as well. Ultimately, you need to head to a range/gun shop that has multiple handguns that you can handle, munipulate, and simulate loading/unloading. Best of luck to you.
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Old October 8, 2013, 11:38 AM   #65
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Am I the only one that noticed that the OP posted this over a year ago? I am curious to know what he finally decided and how he is managing since he was supposed to have his surgery at the end of last year. Maybe he'll find this thread again.
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Old October 8, 2013, 01:02 PM   #66
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First, welcome to the forum and my sympathy for your injury and situation. Second, don't go back to that gun shop. Find one whose employees have some manners and brains.
Pistols are often shot one handed. You may have limitations but there are many guns out there which you can use just fine.
My suggestion is a semi-auto that is single action/double action. Meaning the first shot is double action but follow ups are single. These (at least quality brands) can be safely carried with a round in the chamber and safety not on. Meaning, you can grab and shoot. It can be carried safely as well.
Practice will be very important but that rule applies to everyone, just just you.
Loading the magazine and working the slide to chamber the first round might prove a challenge and require you to develop some techniques. I can't make suggestions for that.
Good luck, carry on and please keep us informed of your progress. I like your spirit and attitude.
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