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Old August 16, 2012, 06:40 PM   #1
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considering purchasing a 722 222 how accurate were they?

I am looking at a 722 in 222 rem. I would like input as to how accurate they were out of the box. Were they as accurate as the 700's?
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Old August 16, 2012, 07:07 PM   #2
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On the whole the 722s that I've owned have shot well . The only one I've hung onto is a .222 that shoots MOA on a bad day !
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Old August 16, 2012, 07:30 PM   #3
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Buddy I work with has been working up handloads for his .222 for better than a year. One day at lunch I asked him how he was making out with it.

He says "No matter what I do I can't get it to shoot better than 1 1/2 inch groups!"

I said you mean you can't get that thing to shoot better than that at 100 yards?

He says "No, I'm shooting at 300 yards!"

I used a few choice words on him and explained in no uncertain terms that the wind can account for that easily.

They will shoot -- nice tight groups.

BTW, he was using H322 powder and 55 grain bullets.
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Old August 16, 2012, 07:42 PM   #4
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The seller is asking 600 for the rifle topped with an old Bushnell of the same era.

BTW, If I can get grouping like that, I then may be satisfied.
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Old August 16, 2012, 08:00 PM   #5
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Here something you might want to read

http://www.remington.com/pages/news-...1-and-722.aspx


http://www.remington.com/products/ar...model-722.aspx

As you see some of the 222 can be close to 60yrs old and my only factory rifle I own still with factory barrel and I got new is a 722 in 222mag. Hard top say on used rifle.
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Old August 16, 2012, 08:18 PM   #6
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Maybe I am tired, but I didn't get what was wrong with the faulty trigger. or when this recall was enacted. Did you have one of these trigger groups?
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Old August 16, 2012, 08:35 PM   #7
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Alright I got it now. To unload the rifle it needs to be done with the safety off since the bolt is locked when on safety, and the gun could discharge when unloading say if your finger is on the trigger while emptying the gun.
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Old August 16, 2012, 10:20 PM   #8
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I have a 788 in 222 that will shoot some pretty good groups. I wont give any numbers cause most wouldnt belive them. IMR3031 to the top of case (22.5grn) 50 grn V-MAX CCI primer and it will shoot real good. Havnt heard of too many 222's that dont shoot well. Most 222's have a slow twist 1-12 50 grn bullets are about the best. Great for groundhogs to 300-400 yds
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Old August 17, 2012, 01:05 AM   #9
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I believe the 222 has a 1 in 14 twist. I have a 788 223 that shoots like that also. I have a can of 3031 I haven't used also. Stick powder is a little harder to work with with small cap cases, but It is very good. Was the primer regular, or magnum?
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Old August 17, 2012, 07:47 AM   #10
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I have two 722s in .300 Savage, one stock, the other one highly butchered by a previous owner with one of the ugliest Bishop stocks I have ever seen.

Both shoot VERY well.
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Old August 17, 2012, 10:58 AM   #11
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Coyota1;
I have a Remmy 722 chambered in .222 Rem. that my dad bought in the 50's.
It has a 1:14 twist barrel & likes bullets 52 gr or less. If I do my part, the rifle will yield groups that you can cover with a dime at 100 yds. I have no idea what its value is, but it sure is a good shooter.
H 322 was the powder of choice for the ammo used with 52 gr bullets.

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Old August 17, 2012, 11:40 AM   #12
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One of the early experts, sorry I could not find the quote and I think it was Jack Connor, stated that the Remington 722 was the best commercial bolt action rifle ever built. The quote came from a Gun digest Annual around 1973.

When i got my 722 the trigger was terrible. My Gunsmith/barrel maker List took about 5 minutes to adjust the trigger. It now is the best trigger on any of my rifles.

I have been shooting my 722 for over 30 years. I had it re-barreled for 257 Roberts. The price seems a little high. If you can get the price down a little, and it has not been trashed I would buy it.
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Old August 17, 2012, 09:03 PM   #13
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COYOTA you are correct in the 1 in 14 my bad. 3031 wont give top vel but accuracy is good. regular primers
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Old August 18, 2012, 12:52 PM   #14
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Accuracy is my chief objective. If I have to sacrifice 100 fps to get 1/2" groups. then so be it. The rifle is topped with a Bushnell 4x Scope Chief. He told me they came factory with these. That's enough for a rimfire, but not a 222, but it will due for now.
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Old August 18, 2012, 09:29 PM   #15
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I think the best I can do is $575 out the door. The rifle is in almost perfect condition. Made in 1954. I think I'm going for it. I wish the price wasn't is high as it is, but they are hard to find, and as good as any new rifle. I really want it in my arsenal in a bad way, and I don't think I can stop myself.
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Old August 19, 2012, 08:00 PM   #16
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I'd look around for a more reasonably priced one , $600.00 is kind of steep , at least around my area . I'd check out a few auctions first !
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Old August 19, 2012, 08:06 PM   #17
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I found one for 100 more. $695.
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Old August 21, 2012, 07:13 PM   #18
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I was thinking the other direction !
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Old August 21, 2012, 07:21 PM   #19
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I was thinking the other direction also, but that's what I found. I got the price down to 575 though.
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Old August 22, 2012, 12:10 PM   #20
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One of the early experts, sorry I could not find the quote and I think it was Jack Connor, stated that the Remington 722 was the best commercial bolt action rifle ever built. The quote came from a Gun digest Annual around 1973.
Not to quibble, but Jack O'Connor was no fan of the Remington Models 721 and 722 rifles. He was a big proponent of the Mauser-style extractor (as evidenced on the pre-64 Winchester Model 70 but lacking on the Remington rifles); his favorite factory bolt-action rifle being, in fact, the pre-64 Winchester Model 70. Regarding the Model 70, in his book The Complete Book of Rifles and Shotguns, said Winchester was described as being, "...the world's handsomest factory-made bolt-action sporter..." Though he praised the Remington Models 721, 722, 725 and 700 for having "very strong actions"; in the aforementioned book, Mr. O'Connor described the Model 722 rifle as being "...a real Plain Jane (and having) about as much sex appeal as Tug Boat Annie..."

Though I'm sure some scribe may have described the Remington Model 722 as being "the best bolt action rifle ever built", it assuredly wasn't Jack O'Connor. Finally, I perused the 1973 Gun Digest (your caveat "around" duly noted) but found no mention of the Remington Models 721 and/or 722 rifles.

For the record, I've lusted for a Remington Model 725 for a long time. Hard to find rifle and pricey when you do.
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Old August 22, 2012, 12:30 PM   #21
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I'm sorry if i misquoted Mr Connor. Unfortunately, I have misplaced the book and have been unable to locate the quote. CRS is starting to set in. There are few "gunscribes" whom I take on faith. The man I paraphrased was one of the Icons.

I know that my favorite rifle is my 722. The stock trigger is not an issue. Any competent (I know how hard it is to find one of those folks) gunsmith can correct any deficiencies in the trigger for a minimal fee.

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Old August 22, 2012, 03:06 PM   #22
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the only "problem" with 222 is if you handload you can't use heavier bullets or so I am told anyway.

over here it is truly a sniping round, almost verbatim as it is a long range bird hunting round, I use my pops combo gun 222/16 gauge alot, and even that O/U gun shots better then me, 3 leafclovers at 100meters and can get them to touch at 300 sometimes.
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Old August 22, 2012, 04:45 PM   #23
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Mr. O'Connor described the Model 722 rifle as being "...a real Plain Jane (and having) about as much sex appeal as Tug Boat Annie..."
The plain janeness is what I find appealing. There was a B grade 721/722 that was made with select (b grade) walnut, and came checkered. Now that would look darn classic.


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the only "problem" with 222 is if you handload you can't use heavier bullets or so I am told anyway.
I bet I could get 55 grain flat base soft points to group well, Some of the early 223 rifles had a 1 in 14 twist and this was with a 55 gr bullet. However, I have no problem with 50 grainers. I shoot 45 gr with my 223's regularly, and for varmint it's plenty of bullet.
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Old August 22, 2012, 04:51 PM   #24
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I perused the 1973 Gun Digest (your caveat "around" duly noted) but found no mention of the Remington Models 721 and/or 722 rifles.
That's because the 721/722/725 rifles were long out of production by 1973. Remington phased out the 721/722 in 1963 and introduced the 700 in 1964,

FWIW, the 721/722 was essentially the same action as the later 700 (the 700 has an updated bolt and extracor and no sight boss on the barrel).
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Old August 22, 2012, 05:48 PM   #25
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It's probably hard to find a rifle chambered for .222 that doesn't shoot. Cheap model 600's shoot this round well. The BR brothers didn't latch on to this for the heck of it. Un-tuned rifles shoot this round well. It's a perfect design.
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