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Old August 10, 2012, 02:38 PM   #1
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Just one powder

I am thinking about simplifying and just having one powder for the following 3 cartridges:

243 win
270 wsm
300 win mag

Any suggestions on a powder that will give good performance with these 3? Not looking for max, but good velocity on all 3.
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Old August 10, 2012, 02:47 PM   #2
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H4895 is as close to a do it all rifle powder as you will find.
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Old August 10, 2012, 03:42 PM   #3
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My understanding is Hodgdon Hybrid 100V was created to fill a niche just like this. H4350 should work too.
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Old August 10, 2012, 05:37 PM   #4
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Old August 10, 2012, 07:09 PM   #5
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h4831 or I4350 or H4895...probably in that order...
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Old August 10, 2012, 07:20 PM   #6
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Old August 10, 2012, 08:24 PM   #7
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Single powder

What?

Five responses and not a single one yet telling the OP how foolish he is, what a bad idea it is and that what he wants to do can't be done!!!

I like the idea of using as few powders as possible.

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Old August 11, 2012, 02:48 AM   #8
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^^^Agreed^^^. One of the most rewarding aspects of hand loading, as I see it, is obtaining the most out of a given cartridge. Trying to achieve that with just one powder for multiple cartridges in multiple guns would be like trying to run a marathon with your legs tied. Powder is just not that expensive.
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Old August 11, 2012, 09:13 AM   #9
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Simply down to two powders.

IMR 4064 for the 243.
IMR 4350 for the other two.

Works for me.
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Old August 11, 2012, 02:17 PM   #10
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^^^Agreed^^^
I think he was being sarcastic.
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Old August 11, 2012, 03:17 PM   #11
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One Powder

"Powder is just not that expensive."

No, it is not, but you develop loads with bullets and these ARE EXPENSIVE.

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Old August 13, 2012, 08:47 AM   #12
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Thanks for the input guys. I know trying differnt powders, bullets, primers etc....., is fun, however, I am at that point in life (kids taking up most of my free time, a great thing) that I am trying to apply the KISS rule as much as possible in every aspect of life. Later down the road when the nest is empty, I hope to have my shelves full of all types of powders. And before you say it, I have introduced my kids to reloading (my 5 year old daughter loves to help out, my 10 year old son, not too much-just likes to shoot them). To Timw77, thanks for the private message and looking at all my data, I have it down to I4350 and RL22 as to powders that those 3 cartridges prefer.
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Old August 13, 2012, 10:31 AM   #13
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One of the most rewarding aspects of hand loading, as I see it, is obtaining the most out of a given cartridge. Trying to achieve that with just one powder for multiple cartridges in multiple guns would be like trying to run a marathon with your legs tied. Powder is just not that expensive.
I agree 100%, but with the post directly above mine -- I can see where the OP is coming from and I can give a nod to exactly what he wants and why.

Still, I'm with Shootest and I would expand on his idea... with my always-growing powder cache, I'm almost always ready to load something new or venture in to a different weight bullet on a whim, without having to shop for powder simply because I have a smorgasbord on hand to choose from.

Having a slew of different powders on hand at the ready has been an investment, but I'm very happy to have them.
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Old August 13, 2012, 03:32 PM   #14
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Hybrid 100V or RL 22. YMMV.
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Old August 13, 2012, 04:37 PM   #15
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PST1, I found this pictures of your hunts

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...65#post3808265

You didn't post any picture from your New Mexico hunt

http://thefiringline.com/forums/show...64#post4669564


http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...9&d=1285881111

I'm not sure I would change powders on your son's first deer with that 243 great picture

http://thefiringline.com/forums/atta...3&d=1288723770
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Old August 13, 2012, 05:01 PM   #16
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IMR 4350 will work just fine in all three.
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Old August 13, 2012, 05:04 PM   #17
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Old roper--thanks for that, forgot I had posted those pictures. New Mexico hunt produced no animal, only great memories.

I may look into hybrid 100v as recommended several times.
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Old August 13, 2012, 09:08 PM   #18
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IMR 4350 will work in all 3... and quite well
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Old August 14, 2012, 11:36 AM   #19
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Just to add a couple other companies to the list, Accurate 3100 and Norma 205 would also work very well.
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Old August 14, 2012, 02:26 PM   #20
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"I like the idea of using as few powders as possible."

I don't. A large part of my goal for handloading is to produce the most accurate ammo possible for each of my rigs and each bullet I use. I really don't care if that requires two powders or two dozen. But others have different goals and that's fine too.
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Old August 14, 2012, 05:29 PM   #21
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Old August 14, 2012, 07:59 PM   #22
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Any of the slow burners such as H4831,IMR4831,or IMR7828, will work. William
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Old August 15, 2012, 01:25 AM   #23
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"I like the idea of using as few powders as possible."

"I don't. A large part of my goal for handloading is to produce the most accurate ammo possible for each of my rigs and each bullet I use. I really don't care if that requires two powders or two dozen. But others have different goals and that's fine too."

I use the optimum powders for my primary/most important cartridges and the bullets I shoot such as the Sierra 77g in the .223R, the Sierra 175g in the .308W and 2 other cartridges.

Does not matter to me if I have 50 pfs less velocity and 0.10" larger groups, the other cartridges I load will use these same powders.

Having room for 4-6, 8 pound cans of the SAME LOT of each of the powders I NEED is far more important than having more powders than anyone else.

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Old August 15, 2012, 09:15 AM   #24
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Or just the common sense factor that you aren't even here answering the question he is asking. He isn't even asking for something crazy like one powder for 12 gauge and full power 243 Win.
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Old August 15, 2012, 11:13 AM   #25
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Gentlemen,

This really isn't the thread to be having the "one powder can't do it all" argument. As noted by Adamantium, the cartridges mentioned in the OP are reasonably similar and have considerable useful powder overlap.

There are lots of choices. Save the disagreement for the thread where someone wants to load 300WinMag and 10mm Auto with one powder, eh?
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