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Old August 8, 2012, 12:15 PM   #1
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Which 308 fits the bill?

New user here and I've been searching for a rifle.

I'm looking for a .308 that is portable (contradiction in terms? maybe so), i.e can fit in a backpack.

Here are the features I'm looking for:

1. telescoping (adjustable LOP) & folding stock
2. 18" barrel (have read that 16" is too short on a .308, 18" seems like good compromise)
3. Rails for scope and forend grip

So far I've found the SCAR17S (though it lacks the barrel length I want) and the DSArms SA58 FAL Para Carbine (after adding optional rails). I like the versatility of the swappable uppers on LWRC R.E.P.R. but dont know if you can fit it with a folding stock.

Any others I'm overlooking? I'd like something that is (in order of priority) 1. reliable, 2. accurate, and 3. versatile given the above features.

Don't care about being cool or trendy....which is why I'm resisting the SCAR...just want something that works.

Thanks for your input.
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Old August 8, 2012, 02:28 PM   #2
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Either of the 18.0" Bush & Scout M1As in a SAGE EBR or Blackfeather RS should make you smile.






The CQB-16 EBR folder is no slouch either

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Old August 8, 2012, 02:49 PM   #3
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The REPR fits the bill.....

Edit--no folding stock. My bad.
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Old August 8, 2012, 05:12 PM   #4
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The SCAR is definitely the most modern design and has the lightest recoil of any you mentioned.

A local shop around here has a like new LWRC REPR for $2700. It's really heavy in comparison to the SCAR 17.

I personally have a PTR91 and a SIG716.



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Old August 8, 2012, 05:23 PM   #5
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You should do some more in depth research on the SCAR17 and then you will realize why it is one of the best 308's out there right now. The recoil is almost that of a 5.56, they are VERY easy to clean, and they can take a serious beating before they fail to go bang. The 16.5" barrel can be swapped out for an 18" (not that I believe it will make a difference) as soon as the new barrels come out (only FN knows when)
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Old August 8, 2012, 06:07 PM   #6
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Thanks for the input guys!

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I'd had the SCAR at the bottom of the list because it is so new. I had been leaning towards something more battle tested. Just my bias. I might actually shoot one this weekend as my range has one for rental, though it might be a 16S. Either way I plan to shoot as many M1As, FALs, SCARs, AR10s etc as I can before I drop the $$$ on anything.
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Old August 8, 2012, 06:23 PM   #7
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Another vote for the SCAR17 here. Its a very versatile platform and should be pretty reliable as well. If I had the $$ this is my next 308 rifle.
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Old August 8, 2012, 08:50 PM   #8
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Isn't the SCAR more battle tested than most 308 auto loaders on the market right now?
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Old August 8, 2012, 09:00 PM   #9
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"Isn't the SCAR more battle tested than most 308 auto loaders on the market right now?"

No. The m14 has been in and out of service since 59.

The g3 has been used since 59.

The FAL has been used since 54.
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Old August 8, 2012, 09:01 PM   #10
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Polinese, the FAL and G3 were pretty extensively battle tested in the 70's and 80's in Africa and the G3 in the Iran/Iraq war of the early 80's. The M14 saw pretty extensive duty in southeast Asia.
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Old August 8, 2012, 09:06 PM   #11
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Besides the M1A/M14 ,G3 and FAL the SCAR17 is the most battle tested rifle out there. SOCOM wanted the latest and greatest and from what I understand the rifle went through countless tests before it was put in the hands of US troops overseas.


However - I highly doubt the M14, G3, and the FAL went through as much testing as the SCAR has
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Old August 8, 2012, 10:42 PM   #12
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"However - I highly doubt the M14, G3, and the FAL went through as much testing as the SCAR has"

I dunno, over 50 years of service for the G3 and FAL with and in many different countries all over the world is a pretty darn good testing period.

Versus what? 3 years of service?
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Old August 8, 2012, 10:45 PM   #13
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Don't get me wrong, the SCAR is great by most accounts, but there is no way it has been tested as much as the other designs that have been around for 50 some odd years.
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Old August 9, 2012, 05:15 AM   #14
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I think the SCAR is a big technological step forward in terms of materials, manufacturing consistency, and design. But of course, 50 plus years of the FAL being drug through numerous conflicts in the bowels of Africa is probably the ultimate test of durability.

I want one. Hopefully the SCAR mags will eventually come down in price.
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Old August 9, 2012, 03:41 PM   #15
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I dunno, over 50 years of service for the G3 and FAL with and in many different countries all over the world is a pretty darn good testing period.

Versus what? 3 years of service?
(I meant testing as in prior to putting it in the hands of troops in the field)

And there is a reason the Israeli forces dropped the FAL.
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Old August 9, 2012, 03:42 PM   #16
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308 AR-types?

How are 308 ARs getting overlooked in this thread? Except the SIG 716 mentioned above they seem to be totally forgotten. Here's some links to some .308 AR-type rifles.

Armalite AR-10
Bushmaster varieties
DPMS
Rock River
LaRue
and there's a lot more.

A DPMS 308 Mk12 really fits all of your requirements. There are AR-type elitists out there who will tell you that, "you must get an Armalite AR-10, as they are the true 'AR.'" I would advise you not to buy into this myopic view. This is not to say Armalite doesn't make truly good rifles, but it is silly to rule out all others just because Armalite was the original manufacturer of the type.
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Old August 9, 2012, 03:42 PM   #17
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Hopefully the SCAR mags will eventually come down in price.
$40-$50 online with shipping right now - which is not bad for what handgun magazines are going for.
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Old August 9, 2012, 07:02 PM   #18
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How are 308 ARs getting overlooked in this thread?

Probably because the first requirement was for a folding stock. I have yet to see an AR10 with a folding stock.
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Old August 9, 2012, 09:45 PM   #19
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"And there is a reason the Israeli forces dropped the FAL."

Yeah, they didn't function great full of sand and they were too damn long.
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Old August 10, 2012, 06:05 AM   #20
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Oops. Mistook that ampersand for slash. Haha. Anyway, then go for a SCAR17S, especially for weight if you're looking to go hiking with it. I might also suggest the M1A with a folding stock, but there are no cheap M14 stocks, and they add quite a bit of weight.
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Old August 10, 2012, 07:34 AM   #21
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The PTR-91 is a good value. Lots of rail options, and you can go with a folding or telescopic stock. Plus, you can get a decent quality 50 round drum for it.
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Old August 10, 2012, 09:15 AM   #22
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I realize all that bout the m14 fal and g3 however i dont think any of us are getting our hands on genuine ones, just clones. Not the same in my opinion at least not always that was where my comment was coming from. Sorry for any confusion.
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Old August 10, 2012, 01:01 PM   #24
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Old August 10, 2012, 02:28 PM   #25
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"Pretty" was not among the requirements the OP listed, was it?

The DTA SRS is another "compact", but it's a bullpup. No folding stock, but with the pup design you don't need it. Extremely accurate platform.

http://www.deserttacticalarms.com/

Or, you can just put a Savage or Rem 700 action into a JP Enterprises chassis...
http://www.jprifles.com/1.2.6.1_AMCS.php

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