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Old September 5, 2012, 01:16 PM   #1
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Ammo ?

I don't know if I'm in the right area (new guy).
I recently came across some old ammo in a bandolier.Was wondering if anyone knew what I have.

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Old September 5, 2012, 01:45 PM   #2
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Do you have any way of measuring the diameter of the bullet itself? Caliper or something?

Looks like a 45-70 to me but without dimensions, kinda tough to tell for sure on a computer screen
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Old September 5, 2012, 01:58 PM   #3
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Looks like 30/40 Krag
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Old September 5, 2012, 02:06 PM   #4
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NOT a 45-70 which has a straight case !
I would say also a 30-40 Krag.
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Old September 5, 2012, 02:53 PM   #5
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Agree .30-40 ID head stamp indicated made by Remington Arms in 1917.
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Old September 5, 2012, 03:57 PM   #6
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Thanks for all your help..greatly appreciated.
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Old September 5, 2012, 06:43 PM   #7
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Hey, I found this thread a while back

In the bottom it states:

Quote from History of Modern U.S. Military Small Arms Ammunition:

"During the World War I period, the U.S. Navy let at least two contracts for paper bullet blank cartridges to be used in training. One of these in April, 1917, was to Winchester for 1.5 million rounds. These were loaded with tinned cases and white paper bullet. Typical headstamp is W.R.A. CO. 5 17. The other is a Remington contract which was made with a tinned brass case, whitish or yellow paper bullet and R A 17 or 18 headstamp ... 200,000 were delivered."
Obviously it's not a paper bullet, but maybe it could give you some guidance.
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Old September 6, 2012, 12:29 AM   #8
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RA 17 should be Rock Island Arsenal, 1917 mfg. .30-40 Krag (.30 US, .30 US Govt, .30 USA). Don't know about the "R" stamp on the primer.

US service rifle cartridge from 1892 to 1903, replaced by the .30-03 Springfield, which was replaced in 1906 with the .30-06.

Apparently military arsenals produced some Krag ammo at least through WW I, if I am right and it is Rock Island. I've seen and shot old Remington ammo, marked .30 USA (commercial ammo), and with that headstamp, its not Remington commerical ammo.
All else being equal (and it almost never is) bigger bullets tend to work better.
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