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Old July 30, 2015, 01:27 PM   #1
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restoring a rusted 1848 uberti

new to site and would like some advice on restoring a rusted and banged up dragoon black powder pistol. should i sand it all down and reblue the entire gun or just do some light sanding with buffing... thanks for your time
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Old July 30, 2015, 01:34 PM   #2
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If you do any sanding and/or buffing, it will take off what finish remains.

Are you set up to blue it back?

It does not look too bad on the kitchen floor; I would go over it with fine steel wool and oil and call it "antiqued."
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Old July 30, 2015, 02:01 PM   #3
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0000 steel wool will remove 80% of the rust. A little oil after that and the gun will look fine.
Unless you actually own a gunsmithing shop, you aren't set up to "restore" or reblue, so anything you do along those lines would do more damage than good.
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Old July 30, 2015, 02:04 PM   #4
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If it was mine I would juts use 0000 steel wool and my favorite oil and get the rust off. Then it will have some character......
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Old July 30, 2015, 08:05 PM   #5
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Thanks guys... what should i do about all the pitting. i know most of the blueing is gone and only about 10% remains. it was built in 1991 so its going to be a shooter that i don't see myself selling soon. i know i am not set up to reblue it but i wanted to add a little to make it look ok, not perfect. thanks for the comments...
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Old July 30, 2015, 08:43 PM   #6
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It looks like there is plenty of bluing left. The frame was not blued-it's color case-hardened, and it's supposed to look like that.
Try the 0000 steel wool. Then squirt it down with WD 40 and scrub it with a rag. I think you'll be surprised.
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Old July 31, 2015, 08:44 AM   #7
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Another vote for just doing the minimum and leaving it looking experienced.
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Old July 31, 2015, 03:34 PM   #8
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I have rubbed motor oil on a rusty gun with a nylon dishwashing scrub pad every night for a month.

By the end of the month you will not remember how rusty it was.
You should take a better picture first.
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Old July 31, 2015, 11:40 PM   #9
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thanks for your reply's guys here are some more shots of the rust and pitting.
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Old August 1, 2015, 10:53 AM   #10
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I spend a lot of time getting rust off.
I have lots of wire wheel and mandrels that I put in a lathe chuck and spin.
You want the finest wire wheel that will get the job done.

I have a couple jugs of evapo rust. That works.

Sometimes i put things in a salt -vinegar brine in the microwave and boil, and then rinse. That makes rusty files sharp.

I have set up the soda and electrolysis, but I don't like it.

For flat surfaces, I like to put fine wet and dry paper on a cast iron ground surface, like a table saw and rub them together. That is how I get the back of woodworking chisels flat. Did that with an old rusty one from ebay this morning.
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Old August 1, 2015, 01:10 PM   #11
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Metal objects in microwave ovens??
Didn't know that was acceptable.
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Old August 1, 2015, 03:43 PM   #12
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While the gun is a little beat up, there is little you can do (other than what I already suggested) to make it look better-only worse. The finish doesn't hurt the gun at all. It can be used as if it were in new condition.
You could have it professionally refinished, but it would cost more than the gun is worth.
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Metal objects in microwave ovens??
Didn't know that was acceptable.
The walls of the microwave are made of metal.
There are lots of interesting things to do with a microwave when the wife is not home.
I have come up with a few, but the good stuff is on youtube.
I would caution that plates with very thin Gold foil decoration will cause sparks and damage to the plate.
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I'd take a NRA Summer School bluing course.
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Old Yesterday, 12:24 PM   #15
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thanks for all the great advise guys, i am going to lightly sand it down ,clean it up and see how it turns out...
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Back the sandpaper with a block of wood. Woodcraft has sanding blocks that are curved shaped. You can buy a set and one will match the barrel.
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Be sure to show us pictures, to prove me wrong.
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Let it rust some more, then stick on a tag saying "dug up at San Jacinto" and sell it for ten grand at a gun show.

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