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Old July 9, 2012, 12:26 PM   #1
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Primer Supplies

How are the primer supplies in your area faring out?

I'm from the Boise, ID area and have had a hard time finding small pistol primers. Happened to be in Oregon on Vacation and I cleaned the Cabelas shelf off of their last CCI 500s
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Old July 9, 2012, 12:49 PM   #2
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no CCI around here for 5 or 6 months
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Old July 9, 2012, 12:58 PM   #3
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Check'en in from middle America.

MidwayUSA has been in backorder mode for a while now. My distributor has been in the 'contact you're salesman' state for longer. That means they are out but want to put your order on backorder - been there and done that 8(

I am taking a delivery this Wednesday but alas CCI 500s and 550s are not to be had. Subing with Rems. SR and large CCI available. I hate that stupid 'hazmat fee' on top of regular shipping, ripoff. Going to make a day of the drive.

Shortages seem to occur before a National election when gun-grabbers are in the mix. Oh, that is every election.

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Old July 9, 2012, 01:02 PM   #4
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Powder Valley has stock of all the CCI primers, *except* 500 and 550. I'd better stock up on some large pistol primers while I still can. Fortunately, Powder Valley is about $7/1000 cheaper than my local store, so I don't have to buy an exorbitant amount for it to be worthwhile, even with the shipping and HAZMAT fee.
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Old July 9, 2012, 01:45 PM   #5
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You can get them (WLRM and CCI) at the local Bass Pro Shop for about 5$ and some change per 100. I stopped in at Green Top about a month ago and they had a good supply of Federals so..... Fortunately I stock pile a few thousand so I'm straight.
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Old July 9, 2012, 02:07 PM   #6
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I just picked up 15,000 CCI small pistol primers ( 3 cases ) - from a dealer - at my local gun show in Puyallup, WA last weekend.../ paid $ 32/1,000 ...which I thought was fair based on what I hear ...( and that included sales tax at 9.4 % ) ....so price was about $ 29.25 before tax.

15,000 represents about 1 yr usage for me .....so I'm not overstocked...but he had Winchester small pistol primers as well.../ said he'd just received a shipment of 75,000...but I don't know when he ordered them.
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Old July 9, 2012, 02:14 PM   #7
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ScottRiqui,

Powder Valley is the place. About 185 miles one way. The nice lady I talked with told me of a couple of local places to eat.

I will get to pay the dumb toll fees going and coming on I35.
I'm just cheap 8)

Enjoy,

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Old July 9, 2012, 03:20 PM   #8
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I know a local dealer that has CCI, Win and Federal all at 28/1k or 27/1k if purchased by the case. The local Bass Pro has them 5/100
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Old July 9, 2012, 03:59 PM   #9
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You realize of course that you guys and your panic buying is what causes the "shortage" - right? You guys are the component vendors best friend.

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Old July 9, 2012, 04:24 PM   #10
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Who's "panic buying"? The only poster so far to mention a firm quantity has been BigJimP, and he bought a year's worth, which is a hefty order, but it's hardly "hoarding". When I talk about needing large pistol primers, it's because I'm down to my last 300.
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Old July 9, 2012, 04:38 PM   #11
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I'm not trying to justify my buy ...but I was down to my last box of 1,000 ...and I've always bought in case quantities / knew the gunshow was coming up last weekend...so I made what is a reasonable buy for me.

I also asked the seller ...if I was hurting his on hand inventory ...I'd take just one case now ( for 5,000 ) and he could email when he had more ...he said he was comfortable letting me have the 3 cases...so that's what I bought. He knows I shoot quite a bit .../ I'm not a re-seller or a hoarder...trying to gouge somebody/and I wanted to make sure he had enough inventory to meet all of his customers needs all weekend. So I paid for 2 cases ...and went back to his table late in the day ..and he said no problem if I wanted a 3rd case - so I was happy to take it.

If one of my close shooting buddies needs 1,000 ....I'll share if they start being difficult to get ...but that's why I buy in case quantities so I have what I want to shoot....and 15,000 is only 300 boxes ...and at 6 - 8 boxes a week ...that's only 40 - 50 week supply of ammo for me...my adult kids, about 6 grandkids and their buddies to shoot ....so it may only last me 6 months....

I buy my powder in 8lb kegs...
I buy my bullets from Montana Gold in case quantities
( 4,000 bullets to a case of 115 gr FMJ 9mm, 2,950 to a case of 158 gr FMJ .357 mag...which are the 2 primary calibers I shoot and use small pistol primers in ).

Based on what this supplier told me ....I don't think primers are in short supply ...at least not in the Northwest.
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Old July 9, 2012, 04:50 PM   #12
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OK, we will go with this 'panic' thing for a little. The people that I buy for, buy a hundred, some time 2 hundred primers at a time. I don't see it. I'm hiding out deep in the Amarugias and don't see all that many things to panic about. OK, I don't have that many customers and we have similar views.

Naw, not around here. Maybe elsewhere.

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Old July 9, 2012, 05:12 PM   #13
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Only thing I worry about is the darn shelf being empty when I have some shooting to do
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Old July 9, 2012, 05:27 PM   #14
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I agree....and its one of my priveledges to teach my grandkids to shoot now...(and some of their friends )/ and I don't want to restrict them to one box each ...when they might want to shoot 3 boxes.../especially in 9mm.

so I keep on hand and loaded up about:
a. 20 - 40 boxes or so of 9mm
b. 20 - 40 boxes or so of .357 mag
c. 20 - 40 boxes of .45 acp on hand
because those are the 3 calibers I personally shoot the most....

and at least 10 boxes or so of .40S&W / .38 spl . / and .44 mag...

for them / and for my own 6 boxes a week or so ...
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Old July 9, 2012, 05:57 PM   #15
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No SPPs around here (SE-MN). My LGS, the largest in the area, can't find any.
Limited supply of other primers.
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Old July 9, 2012, 07:25 PM   #16
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The only two I buy from- PV and Graf's, both have them...(?)

All my reloading supplies are mail order- the only reloading supply house nearby (15 miles at that) is too expensive for all but incidentals where it doesn't justify the Hazmat fee. Near $30 for a pound of Varget is just ridiculous...

If you don't have an FFL (03), Graf's dealer pricing is tough to beat on many items, though PV is usually right in there.
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Old July 9, 2012, 10:30 PM   #17
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Wow, some folks really are penny-wise and pound-foolish. Driving 185 miles each way to avoid a haz mat shipping fee? That's ridiculous. Unless you own a Prius you will pay twice as much for fuel as you would have to pay to have Powder Valley ship the primers to your door. Plus the wear and tear on the car, etc.

And the fellow paying $5 for 100 primers? Wow, that is absolutely ridiculous.
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Old July 10, 2012, 12:17 AM   #18
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CCi 500's have been spotty around here for going on 8-9 months.... They are coming in, but they get bought up as soon as they do..... If I happen to be in the store when they are on the shelf, I will buy 1-2k, but thats pretty rare... up until about a month and a half ago the cabellas near me (15-20 miles) had a good supply, but lately they have been out too.... Normally all other brands are present, just the CCI's are out..... For a month or two sportsmans warehouse was out of ALL primers, but they are back to being just out of CCI small pistol... I am thinking about trying some remington or winchesters....
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Old July 10, 2012, 12:55 AM   #19
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valleyforge.1777,

It gets me out of the shop for a day. I get 42 MPG in my little Honda. Gas is running $3.15 a gal and I can make the run with far less than a tank full. The pounds of powder and number of primers would be broken up into 3 'HAZMAT' charges or more. It is a win - win for me.

Glad your looking out for me. Someone has to.

Be safe,

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Old July 10, 2012, 10:35 AM   #20
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I can get 42mpgs if I am going downhill with the engine off.....
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Old July 11, 2012, 11:06 AM   #21
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NOOOOOOO problem getting primers. The big brown truck has all I need.

You know, I really can't understand paying $5 per 100 for primers. An order of 2,000 primers at that price is $100 plus tax at say 7% is $114. Now, ordering Tula primers from Powder Valley would cost $40 for the primers, $10 shipping and $27.50 hazmat, with no tax. That's a total of $77, for a net savings of $37, even for a small order. For that money you could order another 2,000 primers for no more out of pocket money. And you get to spend the day at the range instead of on the road burning gas.

Of course, do whatever you like. Me, PV is the way to go. If I order 20,000 primers I spend $400, vs $1000 for the $5 version. I save $600, and that buys a lot of powder and primers.

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Old July 11, 2012, 11:40 AM   #22
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No Shortages in NE Ohio

Federal, Winchester, and CCI are $120 for 5k; Remingtons are $143 for 5k.
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Old July 11, 2012, 06:16 PM   #23
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No Shortages in NE Ohio
That's about right - CCI primers are a bit scarce, but 1 shop I know of has a good supply.

All the rest is easily found at one local shop I have been frequenting of late
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Old July 12, 2012, 04:28 AM   #24
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I was at Camp Perry yesterday and there are pallets of primers including CCI for sale on commercial row. Plenty are available at the local stores in NE Ohio too.
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