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Old July 8, 2012, 08:20 PM   #26
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Pump shotgun.

Pump shotgun will cycle as long as you can shuck it.
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Old July 8, 2012, 09:27 PM   #27
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If you get the semi, make sure it's 100% reliable with your selected ammo. Some of the specialty (short case or low recoil) shells may not work properly in a semi.

Make sure of the reliability by taking it out and making noise. Just because somebody on an internet forum says their 1100 worked fine with 'em doesn't mean yours will.
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Old July 9, 2012, 09:51 AM   #28
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ive seen too many semi-autos fail due to one thing or another. If i have to bet my life on it id want a pump.
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Old July 9, 2012, 02:02 PM   #29
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Old July 9, 2012, 02:26 PM   #30
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Remember that a 12 gauge pump, firing typical buckshot loads has the recoil of firing a rifle on the order of a 30-06 or 300 winmag. As long as you are comfortable with that, get a shotgun.

Personally, I find a handgun and a dog to be a better deterrent
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Old July 10, 2012, 12:29 PM   #31
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Pump action.

Nothings says 'get out of my house' like the racking slide of a pump shotgun.
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Old July 10, 2012, 12:59 PM   #32
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Nothings says 'get out of my house' like the racking slide of a pump shotgun.
Sorry, but that has been debunked all over the Net as false. Additionally, if you have bad guys in your home and your gun is still unloaded - that is not good, especially when that sound just gave away your position
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Old July 10, 2012, 01:04 PM   #33
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Old July 10, 2012, 01:15 PM   #34
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Pump. My choice is 870.
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Old July 10, 2012, 01:48 PM   #35
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Either, IF IT"S WELL KNOWN TO THE USER....

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Old July 10, 2012, 02:54 PM   #36
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I am sure most will recommend a pump. I have 2 shotguns I use for home defense:
1) 20 gauge Stoeger Coach Gun, double barrel.
2) 12 gauge lever shotgun. It holds 7 rounds of buckshot

I do not feel under-gunned with either one of them.
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Old July 10, 2012, 03:49 PM   #37
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Double barreled and lever action-are you an SASS shooter by chance?

Side question related to topic, people practicing with shotguns: Besides shooting clays, which these guns aren't made for, how do you regularly practice with them?
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Old July 10, 2012, 04:09 PM   #38
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Side question related to topic, people practicing with shotguns: Besides shooting clays, which these guns aren't made for, how do you regularly practice with them?
You can shoot 3-gun matches if you have the desire, guns, time and money.

You can shoot targets at various ranges with buckshot and slugs... depends what your local range allows.

You can participate in combat and tactical shooting schools and matches... again, contact your local range.

If you have the land and it's legal, you can set up a "course of fire" on a personal outdoor range... an "indoor" range if you have the above and some spare lumber to build a "fun house", "shoot house" or "kill house"... depending on who you're talking to.

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Old July 10, 2012, 04:12 PM   #39
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Old July 10, 2012, 04:22 PM   #40
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I hear that the food alone is sufficient justification for attending a 3-gun match in Texas.
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Old July 10, 2012, 05:19 PM   #41
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Sorry, but that (scaring a bg off with the sound of racking a pump) has been debunked all over the Net as false. Additionally, if you have bad guys in your home and your gun is still unloaded - that is not good, especially when that sound just gave away your position
I have wondered about this, oneounce, but if it is dangerous to keep a round chambered what is the solution? I keep the 870 with a full tube next to the bed and if something sounds wrong in the middle of the night, I quietly rack it and then go out on the landing to listen quietly for anything amiss. Of course if things sound definitely bad, my wife is on the phone to the police and I have my son breaking out the skeet gun for a back up if time permits.
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Old July 10, 2012, 06:09 PM   #42
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if something sounds wrong in the middle of the night, I quietly rack it and then go out on the landing to listen quietly for anything amiss
Respectfully... why is it dangerous?

Aside from the compound safety you possess between your ears... you have a manual safety on the gun. Why not keep a round in the chamber rather than go thru the mechanizations of chambering, then I presume, unchambering a round?

If your son is "breaking out the skeet gun" then there are no concerns about unsafe gun handling with him.

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Old July 10, 2012, 06:52 PM   #43
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Respectfully... why is it dangerous?

Aside from the compound safety you possess between your ears... you have a manual safety on the gun. Why not keep a round in the chamber rather than go thru the mechanizations of chambering, then I presume, unchambering a round?

If your son is "breaking out the skeet gun" then there are no concerns about unsafe gun handling with him.

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Well, I'm a person who keeps my long guns fired on an empty chamber but all my handguns chambered, simply because of the much-lighter average trigger pull on long guns.
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Old July 10, 2012, 06:59 PM   #44
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Well, I'm a person who keeps my long guns fired on an empty chamber but all my handguns chambered, simply because of the much-lighter average trigger pull on long guns.
Respectfully... I think this might be a different situation LockedBreach. KlawMan is referring to his home defense weapon, not all his guns.

By that I mean: The guns I have placed around the house for home defense all have rounds in their respective chambers and safeties on... as well as any gun I may carry for the day. The guns in the safe are all empty.

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Old July 10, 2012, 09:40 PM   #45
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Buy what you will practice with and what you will actually enjoy shooting. Personally, I prefer pumps. You may not. Either is a fine choice if you take the time to learn the gun and what it likes and dislikes. I like manual actions, maybe you feel more intune with a semi auto. If you can, try both types. See what fits you.
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Old July 11, 2012, 08:25 AM   #46
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Either will work as will the double gun (I love Double guns). Keep them clean and working well and practice. If its a Semi test it after you clean it, sometimes things like O rings get broken or pieces in wrong and keeps it from cycling.
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Old July 11, 2012, 09:18 AM   #47
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having a full blown shootout in yer house are ya? just askin..sems like alotta overkill..literally...the spread on the distnce indoors is minimal..why a 12 ga..
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Old July 11, 2012, 08:11 PM   #48
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Respectfully... why is it dangerous?

Aside from the compound safety you possess between your ears... you have a manual safety on the gun. Why not keep a round in the chamber rather than go thru the mechanizations of chambering, then I presume, unchambering a round?

If your son is "breaking out the skeet gun" then there are no concerns about unsafe gun handling with him.
Besides my son there is my daughter and wife at home and the occasional visitor. The safety blocks a shotgun trigger from being pulled. Drop it and the sear can release the hammer and boom!
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Old July 11, 2012, 08:26 PM   #49
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I don't have a preference on either, as both will work fine IMO. But I do suggest the Keltec KSG for 14+1 capacity. That thing is sweet!
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Old July 11, 2012, 08:37 PM   #50
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Drop it and the sear can release the hammer and boom!
Well, if that's the way you see it, then more power to you.

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