Greetings!

red96ta · July 6, 2012, 02:54 AM

I got interested in black powder when I turned 18....more than twenty years ago. But you know how it is, job, marriage, kids, college...they all got in the way but the thought remained. Finally, I got my first...a Pietta 1860 Army.

I'm going to pick up most of my accoutrements tomorrow and have a basic question. I have a pound of Swiss (low and behold you CAN get the stuff in CA!) and the guy said that it shoots about 15% harder than Goex. So what spout should I get? I was thinking of using the 24g that the flask comes with for the Swiss and then picking up a 30g for the Goex...or should I just use 30g for both?

Since I'm introducing myself, I might as well share a pic of the new revolver as well as my other hobby....straight razor shaving

The razor is a George Wostenholm from the same time period as the '60 and was rescaled in buffalo horn. Shaved with it tonight as a matter of fact!

Beagle333 · July 6, 2012, 07:17 AM

The 1860 is my personal choice also. Great pistols!

And Welcome to the forum!
I only have Pyrodex available in this area, so I can't help with your question about that.

IDAHOMIKE · July 6, 2012, 08:36 AM

Welcome!
I'm a fan of the 1860 myself as well. Just be prepared to expand the collection once you start shootin that feller. I'm a goex guy myself, so I can't help with the powder question, but welcome just the same.
And btw, that is a fine lookin razor you've got yourself there!

Willie Sutton · July 6, 2012, 09:21 AM

Welcome aboard!

Where in CA? Asking as I'll be flying at Edwards AFB for the next two months, and will be cap and ball shooting in the desert weekends. Always happy to have someone join in. Drag your revolver and bag-o-possibles out to the Antelope Valley and have a blast. I'll have my 1858 Remmie and a Walker handy. BP is available locally as well.

Willie

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Doc Hoy · July 6, 2012, 11:12 AM

You can't go wrong with the 1860 Colt....

Or an 1851 Colt, in .36..... or .44

Or a Dragoon or Walker,

Or an 1858 Remington.

Doc Hoy · July 6, 2012, 11:13 AM

Or a Spiller and Burr or Rogers and Spencer.

Or an ROA..

Doc Hoy · July 6, 2012, 11:15 AM

The 1861 Navy is nice too.

G & G, L & R, S and G......

.....

Starr, Lemat, Paterson,

TATER · July 6, 2012, 11:48 AM

Greetings, I too have a fondness for Razors.
I think you will like it here, Some good guys are on this board.

arcticap · July 6, 2012, 12:36 PM

Howdy red96ta,
May all of your close shaves be with a straight razor and never with your new Pietta 1860!

Fingers McGee · July 6, 2012, 12:37 PM

Howdy and welcome red96ta

Load the Swiss the same as you would the Goex. It's the T7 sub that is recommended to reduce the loads by 15%, not real BP. A loading in the 25 to 30 grain range is appropriate for BP in the '60. You'll need to try different loads to see what the pistol likes.

mykeal · July 6, 2012, 08:58 PM

Just get one spout, preferably the larger one, and then an adjustable powder measure. Set the measure and pour from the spout into it, then pour from the measure into the chamber. Three reasons: you have more flexibility with the adjustable measure, pouring from the spout into the measure helps to settle the powder and, although most people believe the risk is extremely low in a revolver, it reduces the consequences of an ember in the chamber igniting the powder flow (setting off the powder in a measure is much, much better than setting off the powder in a flask).

Experiment with various loadings to see what your gun likes best. Don't get fixated on one load because some guys on the internet liked it. What matters is what your gun likes, not what the internet likes.

Hawg Haggen · July 6, 2012, 09:28 PM

Well said Mikey.

Hardcase · July 6, 2012, 10:48 PM

Welcome aboard!

Ideal Tool · July 7, 2012, 01:15 AM

Welcome red96ta. I like the percussion and conversion Colts. I also collect straight razors. My grandfather showed me the ins and outs of honing, stropping, and using these neat implements. I see yours looks to be 3/4" I have read where different facial features required a different width..didn't believe it until I tried to use a very nice engraved 3/4" Boker, and a bone handled 1/2" Wostenholm..nothing doing..all I got was a cut face..I need a 5/8".

red96ta · July 7, 2012, 03:21 AM

Thanks for the warm welcome guys!

I've spent the last day going through 100 pages of previous posts...lots to absorb. Got my shopping list all figured out and then today work shorted my check by 16 hours...ugh. I'll try to get the list filled out later in the month.

July 6, 2012, 02:54 AM	#1
red96ta Member Join Date: July 6, 2012 Posts: 50	Greetings! I got interested in black powder when I turned 18....more than twenty years ago. But you know how it is, job, marriage, kids, college...they all got in the way but the thought remained. Finally, I got my first...a Pietta 1860 Army. I'm going to pick up most of my accoutrements tomorrow and have a basic question. I have a pound of Swiss (low and behold you CAN get the stuff in CA!) and the guy said that it shoots about 15% harder than Goex. So what spout should I get? I was thinking of using the 24g that the flask comes with for the Swiss and then picking up a 30g for the Goex...or should I just use 30g for both? Since I'm introducing myself, I might as well share a pic of the new revolver as well as my other hobby....straight razor shaving The razor is a George Wostenholm from the same time period as the '60 and was rescaled in buffalo horn. Shaved with it tonight as a matter of fact!

July 6, 2012, 08:36 AM	#3
IDAHOMIKE Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2007 Location: Gooding, ID Posts: 343	Welcome! I'm a fan of the 1860 myself as well. Just be prepared to expand the collection once you start shootin that feller. I'm a goex guy myself, so I can't help with the powder question, but welcome just the same. And btw, that is a fine lookin razor you've got yourself there! __________________ Need some top notch gunleather? Please check out my facebook page at: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/A-T...05958232763057 and my website at http://atouchofyellowleatherwerkes.weebly.com/ 10% discount for TFL members. Thanks for looking!

July 6, 2012, 11:12 AM	#5
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,347	Indeed..welcome.... You can't go wrong with the 1860 Colt.... Or an 1851 Colt, in .36..... or .44 Or a Dragoon or Walker, Or an 1858 Remington. __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

July 6, 2012, 11:13 AM	#6
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,347	Ummm..... Or a Spiller and Burr or Rogers and Spencer. Or an ROA.. __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

July 6, 2012, 11:15 AM	#7
Doc Hoy Senior Member Join Date: October 24, 2008 Location: Chesapeake, VA Posts: 3,347	Uuuh... The 1861 Navy is nice too. G & G, L & R, S and G...... ..... Starr, Lemat, Paterson, __________________ Doc My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government. Thomas Jefferson

July 6, 2012, 07:17 AM	#2
Beagle333 Senior Member Join Date: January 7, 2012 Location: Back in the woods a piece Posts: 741	The 1860 is my personal choice also. Great pistols! And Welcome to the forum! I only have Pyrodex available in this area, so I can't help with your question about that.

July 6, 2012, 09:21 AM	#4
Willie Sutton Junior member Join Date: January 26, 2012 Posts: 1,066	Welcome aboard! Where in CA? Asking as I'll be flying at Edwards AFB for the next two months, and will be cap and ball shooting in the desert weekends. Always happy to have someone join in. Drag your revolver and bag-o-possibles out to the Antelope Valley and have a blast. I'll have my 1858 Remmie and a Walker handy. BP is available locally as well. Willie .

July 6, 2012, 11:48 AM	#8
TATER Senior Member Join Date: November 19, 2002 Location: Mississippi Posts: 637	Greetings, I too have a fondness for Razors. I think you will like it here, Some good guys are on this board.

July 6, 2012, 12:36 PM	#9
arcticap Senior Member Join Date: March 16, 2005 Location: Central Connecticut Posts: 2,961	Howdy red96ta, May all of your close shaves be with a straight razor and never with your new Pietta 1860!

July 6, 2012, 12:37 PM	#10
Fingers McGee Senior Member Join Date: March 20, 2008 Location: Missouri Posts: 1,717	Howdy and welcome red96ta Load the Swiss the same as you would the Goex. It's the T7 sub that is recommended to reduce the loads by 15%, not real BP. A loading in the 25 to 30 grain range is appropriate for BP in the '60. You'll need to try different loads to see what the pistol likes. __________________ Fingers (Show Me MO smoke) McGee - AKA Man of Many Colts - Alter ego of Diabolical Ken; SASS Regulator 28564-L-TG; Rangemaster and stage writer extraordinaire; Frontiersman, Pistoleer, NRA Endowment Life, NMLRA, SAF, CCRKBA, STORM 327, SV115; Charter member, Central Ozarks Western Shooters Cynic: A blackguard whose faulty vision see things as they are, not as they should be. Ambrose Bierce

July 6, 2012, 08:58 PM	#11
mykeal Senior Member Join Date: October 8, 2006 Location: Northern Michigan Posts: 2,634	Just get one spout, preferably the larger one, and then an adjustable powder measure. Set the measure and pour from the spout into it, then pour from the measure into the chamber. Three reasons: you have more flexibility with the adjustable measure, pouring from the spout into the measure helps to settle the powder and, although most people believe the risk is extremely low in a revolver, it reduces the consequences of an ember in the chamber igniting the powder flow (setting off the powder in a measure is much, much better than setting off the powder in a flask). Experiment with various loadings to see what your gun likes best. Don't get fixated on one load because some guys on the internet liked it. What matters is what your gun likes, not what the internet likes.

July 6, 2012, 09:28 PM	#12
Hawg Haggen Senior Member Join Date: September 8, 2007 Location: Mississippi Posts: 10,238	Well said Mikey. __________________ http://blackpowdertimes.com/index.php

July 6, 2012, 10:48 PM	#13
Hardcase Senior Member Join Date: April 14, 2009 Location: Sunny Southern Idaho Posts: 1,880	Welcome aboard! __________________ Well we don't rent pigs and I figure it's better to say it right out front because a man that does like to rent pigs is... he's hard to stop - Gus McCrae

July 7, 2012, 01:15 AM	#14
Ideal Tool Junior member Join Date: October 6, 2010 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,080	Welcome red96ta. I like the percussion and conversion Colts. I also collect straight razors. My grandfather showed me the ins and outs of honing, stropping, and using these neat implements. I see yours looks to be 3/4" I have read where different facial features required a different width..didn't believe it until I tried to use a very nice engraved 3/4" Boker, and a bone handled 1/2" Wostenholm..nothing doing..all I got was a cut face..I need a 5/8".

July 7, 2012, 03:21 AM	#15
red96ta Member Join Date: July 6, 2012 Posts: 50	Thanks for the warm welcome guys! I've spent the last day going through 100 pages of previous posts...lots to absorb. Got my shopping list all figured out and then today work shorted my check by 16 hours...ugh. I'll try to get the list filled out later in the month.