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Old July 7, 2012, 07:47 AM   #26
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I have a Winchester 69A that is a fantastic rifle. The action is the same as the 75, but it's got a lighter barrel and stock. Mine has a receiver sight and is grooved for scope, but I prefer the irons for this fine shooting/handling rifle.

Mine cost me $225 and it's about the best value I've had in a used .22LR.
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Old July 7, 2012, 01:58 PM   #27
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We have had many 22 rifle threads. I realize now I did not mean to imply that the low cost Marlin in my earlier post was among "the best". I was only saying that, with CCI standard ammo, the one I had was a one hole wonder at 40 and 60 yards. Not that it was "the best" rifle- only that it was capable of being very accurate and repeatable which is good enough for many close range small game or rodent shooters. Maybe you could call it one of the "best values" based on cost and accuracy for many young rabbit hunters. Certainly, without a doubt, a decent "starter rifle" for many kids growing up to hunt with their Dad's and venturing out alone after they get a few season's on them.
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Old July 7, 2012, 03:34 PM   #28
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Old July 7, 2012, 05:11 PM   #29
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Regardless of accuracy, the Ruger 77-22 is a nice rifle. It's not a super-accurate one, however.

The two-piece bolt and non-match chamber work against it. The sub-minute 77-22 has not been built, except maybe by accident.
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Old July 8, 2012, 02:18 AM   #30
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Regardless of accuracy, the Ruger 77-22 is a nice rifle. It's not a super-accurate one, however.

The two-piece bolt and non-match chamber work against it. The sub-minute 77-22 has not been built, except maybe by accident.
Did you really think about that, before you typed it? "Two-piece bolt" and "non-match chamber" are terms that apply to the great majority of the bolt action .22 LR rifles on the market - not just the 77/22.
Two-piece bolts and/or "non-match chambers" are found in most or all models from Marlin, Savage, Winchester, CZ, Remington, and Kimber. (And I'm sure I missed a few manufacturers.)

...Just the same old, unsupported, regurgitated, anti-Ruger internet crap.
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Old July 8, 2012, 07:09 AM   #31
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Does Ruger still make them with the raised wood pressure pad under the barrel? If they do, a lot of folks used to improve their accuracy by removing it and free floating the barrel.

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Old July 8, 2012, 08:49 PM   #32
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Buds lists the Ruger stainless at $606 My Marlin target stainless was about 1/2 that AFTER I added a $75 rear sight to it.
HOw much is it going to cost to have a smith cut a dovetail?
I've not been impressed with the accuracy of the ruger rifles I have handled. It is sufficient for most hunting, but not target. Everywhere else they are great.
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Old July 8, 2012, 09:02 PM   #33
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I love the Savage Mk II. I like economical, sturdy and accurate rifles. This one fits the bill.
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Old July 8, 2012, 09:05 PM   #34
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win 67

winchester model 67,
mines about ten years older than my grandmother, sexy,accurate, classy
and you could probably pick up 2 for the price of a new .22 these days.
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Old July 9, 2012, 08:49 AM   #35
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Kimber mdl 82 if you can find one.
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Old July 10, 2012, 08:00 AM   #36
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Remington 510 is my choice; I have two and they will do the job if the shooter does their job.
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Old July 10, 2012, 07:06 PM   #37
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food for thought the new ruger 77/22's have barrels that are threaded into the receivers. probably benefit from free floating more than previous v-block models, but at the same time, you don't get access to all the after-market barrels.
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Old July 10, 2012, 07:36 PM   #38
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Rembrandt that 52 is a work of art. Good for you! .02 David
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Old July 13, 2012, 02:24 PM   #39
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Get a Marlin XT-22 you'll love it, adjustable trigger,10 rd mags, and very accurate. Plus you won't cry when you scratch it while out hunting.
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Old October 9, 2012, 02:57 AM   #40
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If you can get a Winchester 52 sporter, do it. Best .22 I own. They are pricey, but worth every penny.
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Old October 9, 2012, 11:41 AM   #41
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Winchester 52's are oft times cited as the finest ones ever made. But their accuracy's been bettered by several; Anschutz, Walther, Hammerli among others.
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Old October 10, 2012, 05:35 PM   #42
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Another vote for the Marlin/Glenfield 25. It may not be the absolute best, but certainly is one of the best for the money and will give far more expensive rifles a run for their money.
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Old October 10, 2012, 07:35 PM   #43
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.22 bolt in USA

All the US rifles are excellent .If you can check them all out,then make your decision.My favorite bolt that I use is a Winchester 69Aand then the Remington 510 single shot Match Master.I also have a Ruger 77-22 that I am not very fond of.Cliff
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Old October 10, 2012, 08:12 PM   #44
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Model 52 is the best I've every touched (but never owned one.)
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Old October 10, 2012, 09:42 PM   #45
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If we are talking accuracy,Cooper, very expensive, something i could not afford, so I went with CZ(not American made)but fantastic accuracy out of the box.

Squirrel hunting accuracy bolt (lower cost) Marlin,my 981T is fun, shoots shorts long and long rifle.
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Old October 11, 2012, 06:18 AM   #46
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Did you really think about that, before you typed it? "Two-piece bolt" and "non-match chamber" are terms that apply to the great majority of the bolt action .22 LR rifles on the market - not just the 77/22.
Two-piece bolts and/or "non-match chambers" are found in most or all models from Marlin, Savage, Winchester, CZ, Remington, and Kimber. (And I'm sure I missed a few manufacturers.)

...Just the same old, unsupported, regurgitated, anti-Ruger internet crap.
I speak from long experience with rimfires and a great many accurizing projects, including several that have been posted on a well-known rimfire board for several years and recording more than 20,000 hits. My accurizing jobs have turned in remarkable accuracy, including my own 10-22 that shot an average of 10 consecutive 5-shot groups at 50 yards that averaged 0.37".

That said, I've also worked at trying to get the 77/22 to shoot "very" well and with factory barrels. It's been quite disappointing. Though made of high-quality materials, the two-piece bolt is not made to precision levels and doesn't fit in the action particularly tightly. I've heard of only one 77/22 that was extensively modified that shot reasonably well in rimfire benchrest competition, but didn't win any matches, as I remember.

Compare that to the Remington 540-series rifles that, modified, were used extensively as Sporter-category rifles that won many matches before advent of the custom rimfire action rifles that typically result in winners, but cost upwards of $3,000, some closer to $10,000.

That said, the 77/22 is a nice rifle. If a person wants a reliable rifle that shoots 1"-1 1/2" groups with non-match ammo at 50 yards...go for it! I just expect more out of my bolt-action rifles, especially those that cost what the Ruger does. I also expect that if I do some basic accurizing work on one, that it should group under 3/4" at 50 yards with non-match ammo, but ammo selected, by trial of various brands/types.
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Old October 11, 2012, 07:38 AM   #47
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best rimfire

My Winchester 69A is my only rimfire rifle. It is used for squirrel. It is so old, it doesn't have a serial number and I did have to spend twenty bucks to have it tapped for a scope. Weaver still makes the special bases that fit on the receiver and barrel of this model. It shoots half inch groups at fifty yards with a 1-3x hunding scope (perfect power range for squirrel hunting situations I think) admittedly though a bit of stoning of the trigger components was necessary to get her to sing. Today's Savage has the same extraction, ejection, lock-up and an awesome trigger so if you're set on a new rifle, I'd go there. I don't know if the barrel is better but I heare of amazing groups being shot with them. I'd think twice about those light, synthetic stocks for a squirrel rifle that is already very light. Real world squirrel hunting might prove this out for you as it did for me.
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Old October 11, 2012, 06:54 PM   #48
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If you can get a Winchester 52 sporter, do it. Best .22 I own. They are pricey, but worth every penny.
Couldn't agree more.....

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Old October 11, 2012, 09:24 PM   #49
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One of the best .22 rifles I've handled and fired is a "Revelation" I repaired for a friend who'd found it at a yard sale.
The rifle had been found leaning against a tree after being forgotten or lost years before.
The scope was full of water and there was moss inside the bore and in the action, with deep pitting and much of the upper receiver deeply rusted away.

Suprisingly despite the moss and a water line in the bore, the bore cleaned up just fine. The waxy lube of lead bullets had protected the bore.

This rifle appeared to be a redesign of an autoloader.
The bolt body is non rotating, and the bolt handle is part of a rotating sleeve. The bolt remains enclosed by the receiver in operation.

Rather than a striker the action has a hammer such as you'd find with a semi auto. This allows a light crisp positive trigger pull.

Once I dried out and repaired the wood, refinished the exterior, then found a replacement rear sight and mounted a new scope on it, the rifle proved to be remarkably accurate.

IIRC "Revelation" was a store brand of the "Western Auto" chain stores.
I think this rifle may have been made by Mossberg.
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Old October 12, 2012, 11:36 PM   #50
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A Canadian rifle might be ok with me. And we have lots of their Enfields.

Canada bought lots of US-made F-101, F-104, F-18 Hornets, C-130s, among many other mil. and civilian aircraft types, and are offering us the Trans-Canadian oil pipeline. (however...).
It is a very noble act that we try to buy US products.

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