What is your preferred home defense shotgun ammunition? - Page 3

LSnSC · July 17, 2012, 11:44 AM

I don't know what to make of the articles. I m sure they are sincere . My own experience has been much different. Ive seen lots of big game killed with #4 buckshot. Would say that thousands of deer, boar, and bear have fallen to it. Yet its deemed inadequate for self defense by experts. Makes ne question the experts expertise.u

Grant D · July 17, 2012, 02:44 PM

I have eight rounds of Remington 00 buckshot in my Model 1100, with a extended magazine.

Strafer Gott · July 17, 2012, 03:42 PM

S&B 00 buck or Federal 4T 3". You never have to ask if you hit them with the 4T. Too many of them gives me a recoil headache in a pump.

IDAHOMIKE · July 19, 2012, 09:21 AM

Federal, 3.5 inch 00 buck 10 gauge in the coach gun, Winchester 2.75 00 buck in the NEF. Not many shotguns to choose from around here these days.

huntinaz · July 19, 2012, 09:46 AM

Usually #4 buck, I've got some by Rio and some by Estate. Sometimes 00 buck, brands vary.

Willie Lowman · July 19, 2012, 10:27 AM

Federal 00 buck. Patterns well in every gun I have put it through.

xLPlushy · July 19, 2012, 12:36 PM

Out of my 500 the first 2 are 3" 000BK 10 pellet then it's a mix of 3" 1oz rifled slugs and more 3" 000BK. Slugs are Winchester and 000BK are Remington. If it's out of my 835 it's 3.5" 00BK 18 pellet all the way, Remington again here. And if it's out of the Nova, it's Winchester Supreme Elite Extended Range High Velocity 3.5" #4 shot turkey loads.

Until I can load my own this is what I'll use. When I do load my own it'll be a mean concoction of mixed shot sizes. From 000BK to #4 shot.

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joegator · July 19, 2012, 09:23 PM

Remington 00 buckshot 9 pellets 2-3/4"

Sport45 · July 20, 2012, 05:58 AM

I have 00 and #4 buck handy and don't worry much about which one I have in the 870.

Skadoosh · July 20, 2012, 07:43 AM

340 Weatherby · July 21, 2012, 01:58 AM

#4 Buck will solve ant problems I anticipate having.

KMAX · July 21, 2012, 09:04 AM

I vote for #4 buck also. I have my 12 guage loaded with three #4 buck S&B and two 00 buck.

Old Grump · July 21, 2012, 05:24 PM

20 gauge, #4 shot, 2 3/4" shell, not brand fussy as long as it is hi velocity turkey loads but most of what I have is Remington, Federal. Fiocchi and Estate.

Jack O'Conner · July 22, 2012, 05:05 PM

Goose loads #2 shot.

Jack

jackpine · July 22, 2012, 09:25 PM

#4 buck winchester LE with rem 2 3/4" foster slugs on standbye

Running Dog · July 25, 2012, 05:36 PM

Has anyone here ever touched off a 12ga. indoors without hearing protection? Speak up I can't hear you!

Sport45 · July 25, 2012, 09:41 PM

Quote:

Has anyone here ever touched off a 12ga. indoors without hearing protection? Speak up I can't hear you!

No decent self defense firearm is going to be good for your hearing if discharged indoors without hearing protection. But a 12ga might actually hurt less than a .357 or .44 magnum...

WV_gunner · July 25, 2012, 10:47 PM

12 gauge 2 3/4 Federal 000 with an internal hammer single trigger o/u
If I could find 3 inch I'd use it.

I'm considering having an extra shotgun handy, a Mossburg Slugster. Not sure on the ammo yet.

762x54 · July 25, 2012, 11:25 PM

Hand load few pellets of 00 and then a tablespoon or so of Obsidian chips (from knapping, sharper than steel) it is something I wouldn't recommend to shoot much but 1 round of that will stop a moose.

Running Dog · July 26, 2012, 01:13 AM

@ Sport45...just kiddin' sort of...As being on the sending [I]and[I]receiving end of mortar rounds in the late 60's in V.N.,I know what concussion can do to yr hearing , I also know what failure to act promptly can do . Maybe a little off topic, but I use 38spl Glaser Safety Slugs(compressed #12 shot in a hollowpoint) as my first response, out of a Ruger LCP W/Crimson Trace laser. Serious terminal effect w/out wailing through too many walls hurting the wrong people. If I used a shotty it'd be my S&W 916 A w/ # 4 spreaders applied as necessary,repeat if needed.

mrbatchelor · July 26, 2012, 02:01 AM

Didn't the FBI penetration testing come up with #1 Buck as the best load?

Seems that's what I remember reading. We spent a bunch of tax money on that research. It might be wrong, but I'd ask someone to explain to me how they screwed it up. I'm no ballistics expert myself.

TheKlawMan · July 27, 2012, 01:28 AM

The thing about surveys like this is they are too general to be meaningful. Best for whom; urban, suburban, rural resident on a hermit living in the wilderness. Do you live alone, with adults, or small children?

WV_gunner · July 29, 2012, 07:40 AM

Can't believe how much rifled slugs cost, box of 5 was $21. I bought Remington 3 inch magnum jacketed hollow points.

cajun47 · July 29, 2012, 02:34 PM

walmart has the winchester 1 oz box of 15 for $10 or so. remington also.

i have three 12ga mossberg 500 shotguns i cut to 20 inch barrel. all my ammo is 2 3/4". all my shotguns have the 5 shot carrier thing on the stock held in place with strips of bicycle tube like a big rubber band. on the other side of the stock i have 4 additional shells held long ways by the tire tube ban and out of the way of my face. and the 5 shells in the mag. thats 5 shells in the gun and 9 on the gun. each. plus a bandolier with 25 00 buckshot and 25 slugs.

shotgun one for in the house is loaded with 00 buck(remington or regular federal, or winchester).

second shotgun is loaded down with winchester pdx1(buck n ball) for really tough threats/outdoors that buckshot may not work on. according to tnoutdoors on youtube the regular 2 3/4" winchester slugs break up and penetrates around 10 inches of ballistics gel. the pdx1 buck n ball penetrates 19 1/2 inches! be careful!

third mossberg is to bring in the truck. i rotate federal flite control 00 buck and the winchester 1 oz slugs.

i'll post the buck n ball video in case someone has not seen it. you can checkout his other devastating 12 ga videos from there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg44j...eature=related

WV_gunner · July 29, 2012, 03:12 PM

By rifled slugs, it was a typo. Meant Sabot slugs.

View Poll Results: What is your preferred home defense shotgun ammunition
Bird shot (specify what kind of shot and brand in a comment)	8	7.92%
Buck shot (specify what kind of shot and brand in a comment)	88	87.13%
Slugs (specify what kind of shot and brand in a comment)	5	4.95%
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July 19, 2012, 09:21 AM	#54
IDAHOMIKE Senior Member Join Date: November 25, 2007 Location: Gooding, ID Posts: 343	Federal, 3.5 inch 00 buck 10 gauge in the coach gun, Winchester 2.75 00 buck in the NEF. Not many shotguns to choose from around here these days. __________________ Need some top notch gunleather? Please check out my facebook page at: http://www.facebook.com/#!/pages/A-T...05958232763057 and my website at http://atouchofyellowleatherwerkes.weebly.com/ 10% discount for TFL members. Thanks for looking!

July 19, 2012, 09:46 AM	#55
huntinaz Senior Member Join Date: September 21, 2010 Location: az Posts: 866	Usually #4 buck, I've got some by Rio and some by Estate. Sometimes 00 buck, brands vary. __________________ Wanted: 50 Beowulf Brass, .500 cal bullets "Once you quit hearing sir and ma'am, the rest is soon to follow." - Cormack McCarthy "I'm just an average Joe, although I did score 4 touchdowns in one game..."-Al Bundy

July 19, 2012, 10:27 AM	#56
Willie Lowman Senior Member Join Date: March 5, 2009 Location: Uh-Hi-O Posts: 1,947	Federal 00 buck. Patterns well in every gun I have put it through. __________________ "No, it's not a silencer. This little doodad is my own invention. I call it a loudener." --Sledge Hammer

July 20, 2012, 05:58 AM	#59
Sport45 Senior Member Join Date: May 26, 1999 Location: Too close to Houston Posts: 3,987	I have 00 and #4 buck handy and don't worry much about which one I have in the 870. __________________ Proud member of the NRA and Texas State Rifle Association. Registered and active voter.

July 17, 2012, 11:44 AM	#51
LSnSC Senior Member Join Date: January 5, 2010 Posts: 502	I don't know what to make of the articles. I m sure they are sincere . My own experience has been much different. Ive seen lots of big game killed with #4 buckshot. Would say that thousands of deer, boar, and bear have fallen to it. Yet its deemed inadequate for self defense by experts. Makes ne question the experts expertise.u

July 17, 2012, 02:44 PM	#52
Grant D Senior Member Join Date: August 14, 2011 Location: Brazos County, Texas Posts: 595	I have eight rounds of Remington 00 buckshot in my Model 1100, with a extended magazine.

July 17, 2012, 03:42 PM	#53
Strafer Gott Senior Member Join Date: May 12, 2011 Location: New Mexico Posts: 893	S&B 00 buck or Federal 4T 3". You never have to ask if you hit them with the 4T. Too many of them gives me a recoil headache in a pump.

July 19, 2012, 12:36 PM	#57
xLPlushy Senior Member Join Date: March 7, 2012 Location: Eastern PA Posts: 156	Out of my 500 the first 2 are 3" 000BK 10 pellet then it's a mix of 3" 1oz rifled slugs and more 3" 000BK. Slugs are Winchester and 000BK are Remington. If it's out of my 835 it's 3.5" 00BK 18 pellet all the way, Remington again here. And if it's out of the Nova, it's Winchester Supreme Elite Extended Range High Velocity 3.5" #4 shot turkey loads. Until I can load my own this is what I'll use. When I do load my own it'll be a mean concoction of mixed shot sizes. From 000BK to #4 shot. Tapatalked via my highly abused iPhone

July 19, 2012, 09:23 PM	#58
joegator Senior Member Join Date: April 11, 2008 Location: Florida Posts: 528	Remington 00 buckshot 9 pellets 2-3/4"

July 20, 2012, 07:43 AM	#60
Skadoosh Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2010 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,646	__________________ NRA Life Member (2003) USN Retired

July 21, 2012, 01:58 AM	#61
340 Weatherby Member Join Date: March 25, 2012 Posts: 82	#4 Buck will solve ant problems I anticipate having.

July 21, 2012, 09:04 AM	#62
KMAX Senior Member Join Date: June 20, 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 792	I vote for #4 buck also. I have my 12 guage loaded with three #4 buck S&B and two 00 buck. __________________ This is my gun. There are many like her, but this one is mine. With Freedom Comes Responsibility!

July 21, 2012, 05:24 PM	#63
Old Grump Member in memoriam Join Date: April 9, 2009 Location: Blue River Wisconsin, in Posts: 3,144	20 gauge, #4 shot, 2 3/4" shell, not brand fussy as long as it is hi velocity turkey loads but most of what I have is Remington, Federal. Fiocchi and Estate. __________________ Good intentions will always be pleaded for any assumption of power. The Constitution was made to guard the people against the dangers of good intentions. There are men in all ages who mean to govern will, but they mean to govern. They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters. --Daniel Webster--

July 22, 2012, 05:05 PM	#64
Jack O'Conner Senior Member Join Date: July 11, 2005 Location: Lancaster County, Pennsylvania Posts: 1,339	Goose loads #2 shot. Jack __________________ Fire up the grill! Deer hunting IS NOT catch and release.

July 22, 2012, 09:25 PM	#65
jackpine Senior Member Join Date: November 24, 2010 Posts: 300	#4 buck winchester LE with rem 2 3/4" foster slugs on standbye

July 25, 2012, 05:36 PM	#66
Running Dog Junior Member Join Date: July 14, 2012 Posts: 4	Has anyone here ever touched off a 12ga. indoors without hearing protection? Speak up I can't hear you!

July 25, 2012, 10:47 PM	#68
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 469	12 gauge 2 3/4 Federal 000 with an internal hammer single trigger o/u If I could find 3 inch I'd use it. I'm considering having an extra shotgun handy, a Mossburg Slugster. Not sure on the ammo yet.

July 25, 2012, 11:25 PM	#69
762x54 Junior Member Join Date: July 25, 2012 Posts: 6	Hand load few pellets of 00 and then a tablespoon or so of Obsidian chips (from knapping, sharper than steel) it is something I wouldn't recommend to shoot much but 1 round of that will stop a moose.

July 26, 2012, 01:13 AM	#70
Running Dog Junior Member Join Date: July 14, 2012 Posts: 4	@ Sport45...just kiddin' sort of...As being on the sending [I]and[I]receiving end of mortar rounds in the late 60's in V.N.,I know what concussion can do to yr hearing , I also know what failure to act promptly can do . Maybe a little off topic, but I use 38spl Glaser Safety Slugs(compressed #12 shot in a hollowpoint) as my first response, out of a Ruger LCP W/Crimson Trace laser. Serious terminal effect w/out wailing through too many walls hurting the wrong people. If I used a shotty it'd be my S&W 916 A w/ # 4 spreaders applied as necessary,repeat if needed.

July 26, 2012, 02:01 AM	#71
mrbatchelor Senior Member Join Date: April 18, 2010 Location: South Carolina Posts: 237	Didn't the FBI penetration testing come up with #1 Buck as the best load? Seems that's what I remember reading. We spent a bunch of tax money on that research. It might be wrong, but I'd ask someone to explain to me how they screwed it up. I'm no ballistics expert myself.

July 27, 2012, 01:28 AM	#72
TheKlawMan Junior member Join Date: June 23, 2009 Location: Orange County, CA Posts: 2,150	The thing about surveys like this is they are too general to be meaningful. Best for whom; urban, suburban, rural resident on a hermit living in the wilderness. Do you live alone, with adults, or small children?

July 29, 2012, 07:40 AM	#73
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 469	Can't believe how much rifled slugs cost, box of 5 was $21. I bought Remington 3 inch magnum jacketed hollow points.

July 29, 2012, 02:34 PM	#74
cajun47 Senior Member Join Date: May 28, 2007 Location: swamp people Posts: 525	walmart has the winchester 1 oz box of 15 for $10 or so. remington also. i have three 12ga mossberg 500 shotguns i cut to 20 inch barrel. all my ammo is 2 3/4". all my shotguns have the 5 shot carrier thing on the stock held in place with strips of bicycle tube like a big rubber band. on the other side of the stock i have 4 additional shells held long ways by the tire tube ban and out of the way of my face. and the 5 shells in the mag. thats 5 shells in the gun and 9 on the gun. each. plus a bandolier with 25 00 buckshot and 25 slugs. shotgun one for in the house is loaded with 00 buck(remington or regular federal, or winchester). second shotgun is loaded down with winchester pdx1(buck n ball) for really tough threats/outdoors that buckshot may not work on. according to tnoutdoors on youtube the regular 2 3/4" winchester slugs break up and penetrates around 10 inches of ballistics gel. the pdx1 buck n ball penetrates 19 1/2 inches! be careful! third mossberg is to bring in the truck. i rotate federal flite control 00 buck and the winchester 1 oz slugs. i'll post the buck n ball video in case someone has not seen it. you can checkout his other devastating 12 ga videos from there. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sg44j...eature=related Last edited by cajun47; July 29, 2012 at 02:43 PM.

July 29, 2012, 03:12 PM	#75
WV_gunner Senior Member Join Date: December 14, 2011 Location: WV Posts: 469	By rifled slugs, it was a typo. Meant Sabot slugs.