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Old June 25, 2012, 07:07 PM   #1
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Remington Model Seven CDL

Can someone tell me why this rifle costs $998? It's as much as the equivalent Model 700 CDL. And try to find a Model Seven listed at Cabela's or Gander's websites. They make a couple other versions with synthetic stocks but if I buy any new rifles they're going to have wood. After replacing my paddle stock on my Ruger all-weather with a laminated wood stock I'm going back to the "old days" of "pretty" guns that still kill animals. They are so much nicer to look at.

Maybe I should look at the Browning X-Bolt micro "whatever" with the wood stock.


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Old June 25, 2012, 09:30 PM   #2
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If both the 700 and 7 are the top end CDL versions, why would their prices not be the same?
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Old June 25, 2012, 09:50 PM   #3
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I would think the smaller Model 7 would be slightly cheaper. The mini Browning is $50 cheaper then the full size one.

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Old June 26, 2012, 07:45 AM   #4
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Model 7's have always fetched a premium price.
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Old June 26, 2012, 12:48 PM   #5
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Plus model 7s don't have any plastic parts , like the Browning . I just cant get by that plastic magazine . They might be fine in warm climates , but from my experience plastics and cold don't mix ! Back when the Savage Axis was called the Edge , that plastic latch would snap right off the mag when you slapped it into the gun if it was cold . I saw this happen twice , with my own eyes !
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Old June 26, 2012, 01:31 PM   #6
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Remington makes basically 3 action lengths. A long action and short action 700. The 7 is basically the same gun with an even shorter action, but with the ejection port opened up. To do this they had to shorten the rear receiver bridge. Early 7's required a 1 piece base since they only drilled 1 hole on the rear receiver bridge. Newer guns have 2 holes, placed very close together. Just as there is no reason to charge different prices for a long action and short action, there is no reason to charge more or less for the 7. Assuming they are the same level of finish.
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Old June 26, 2012, 10:10 PM   #7
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Well, it gets mighty cold up here some winters. I've "experienced" -40ยบ F and if you've ever driven a car that's sat out in that all night you'll never forget it. Tires have flat spots and appear "square". Shocks, springs and "SEAT" springs don't move. It's like sitting on a cement block.

If we have a winter like that all the Axis, Americans etc are going to have lot's of broken plastic parts LOL!!
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Old June 27, 2012, 11:39 AM   #8
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I've been looking at the Model 7's too, but was concerned about the barrel length. I know with the advances in cartridges, it shouldn't be a big deal. Are losses in velocity, if any, enough to matter for shots out to 250 yds?

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Old June 27, 2012, 01:56 PM   #9
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The early 7's all came with 18.5" barrels and were great for close range brush hunting where a little velocity loss did not matter. All the new guns have 20"-22" barrels depending on caliber. 20" is a better compromise length in my mind and with most of those chamberings it is not enough to really matter. If you really want that 50 extra fps from a 2" longer barrrel one of the short action 700's may be a better choice.
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Old June 27, 2012, 02:41 PM   #10
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BigJerm, some calibers are more sensitive to barrel loss than others. Fortunately for the Model 7, the .308 based calibers tend to handl that loss pretty well. Both 7mm-08 and .260 do quite well with 18.5 to 20 inch barrels. My 18.5" .260 is easily a 300 yd+ gun.
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Old July 3, 2012, 10:44 AM   #11
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Thanks for the info guys! This is GREAT news since the 7mm-08 was what I was looking at in this gun. My top two are the Model 7 or 700 Mountain Rifle in .280 Rem (stainless/laminated model). I thought either would be great for long hikes in the Sierras or some other forest here in Cali. Either round will take anything in this state, so I'm good!

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Old July 3, 2012, 01:24 PM   #12
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Unless you are a hand loader I'd advise skipping the .280. You really don't gain that much from the longer cartridge even in a long-barreled gun (about 140fps at the muzzle). In a short-barreled gun you'll find that the velocity is about even because the .280 doesn't handle barrel loss as well as the short-action calibers.

The biggest downfall of the .280 is ammo availabilty. 7mm-08 is pretty common in any decent sized sporting goods store whereas .280 is probably going to require mail-order.
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Old July 4, 2012, 12:14 PM   #13
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That laminated MTN will be about a pound heavier than a model 7 !
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Old July 4, 2012, 12:25 PM   #14
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Watch the forums. This one just sold over at 24HourCampfire. If I didn't already have a Model 7 in .243, I'd have been all over it.
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Old July 4, 2012, 08:42 PM   #15
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I have the 700 CDL 25.06 and my daughter has the Model 7 CDL .260 and cosmetically her model 7 looks identical to my 700 only shorter. There is a difference in the price of those two guns around here. I paid $725 plus tax for her model 7 about 2yrs ago and around $900 plus tax for my 700 last year. I don't know why the price difference unless it was for the extra 4 inches of barrel, long action vs short action or the fact that remington no longer chambers the 700 cdl in 25.06. Both are nice rifles.
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Old July 5, 2012, 03:28 AM   #16
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Roger that on the ammo availability of the 280 and weight difference in the Mountain Rifle, but I've been pining over that specific model/caliber for quite some time. I've counted on having to stock up on web-ordered factory ammo, 'cause I don't reload. I'd probably do the same for the 7mm-08 as well. That's not so easy to find in the local shops either. I really dig both rifles so, it's a toss-up!
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Old July 5, 2012, 07:23 AM   #17
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You can buy a TIKKA and have the barrel professionally shortened to 20 inches.

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Old July 6, 2012, 04:46 AM   #18
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Im sure rem sells fewer 7s then 700s so if anything it has less of a profit margin and should cost more.
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