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Old June 19, 2012, 10:05 PM   #151
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That's not the point. You do have the right to bring a firearm on someone's property without their consent to bring the weapon. Of course you don't have the right to be on their property without their consent. If they tell you to leave and you refuse, you're trespassing, but the weapon is irrelevant.

The statement was "name a state that allows you to carry without the owners consent". The answer to that is "virtually all of them do". You're not allowed to BE THERE without the owners consent but virtually no jurisdiction requires consent to carry a weapon on private property.

I carry a weapon on private property without the owners consent all the time. I'm allowed to be there but no one ever consented to the concealed weapon.

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Old June 19, 2012, 10:32 PM   #152
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My issue isn't with the fact that a guy who had a complaint was carrying a weapon. I normally carry, and if I were going to a neighbor's to ask them to keep the noise down a bit, I wouldn't disarm before going - unless I anticipated being asked to come in, join, and drink.

My issue isn't whether it's wrong to approach a neighbor about noise levels. It shouldn't be a big problem.

My issue isn't with going onto somebody else's property with the intention of talking with them. We all do that. Some of us routinely do that while carrying concealed. If the property is not posted, there is nothing wrong with going up and knocking on the door.

My issues with this case are not related to the gun, nor the request, nor the property. My issues with this case are with apparent intent, and actions in evidence, that show Rodriguez was not looking for a solution, but a confrontation. Going looking for a confrontation, particularly while armed, is a bad, bad idea.
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Old June 19, 2012, 11:28 PM   #153
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Starting to get circular.
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Old June 27, 2012, 10:12 PM   #154
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Just by way of follow up, it appears that Rodriguez was sentenced to 40 years in prison.

I've added this just to "complete the loop", but I see no reason to reopen the thread. If anyone thinks he can convince me to reopen the thread, he can try by PM.
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