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Old June 3, 2012, 08:34 AM   #1
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McC, you may want to try this out...

when you are in central PA. One of the most advanced shooting facilities on the planet. Regular ATA trap targets travel at 45mph from 1 trap, international trap targets travel at 65mph from 15 separate stations inside the bunker. Talk about the ultimate shotgun experience!! The best thing, you just insert a credit card, it counts up the birds and you are billed accordingly. The trap house holds over 200,000 clay targets...













Checkout the website. I've shot it a couple of times...

http://keystoneshootingpark.com/
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Old June 3, 2012, 08:41 AM   #2
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also, on the same grounds you can shoot championship quality sporting clays...

http://martzs.com/sporting-clays.htm
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Old June 3, 2012, 09:52 AM   #3
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Thanks for the pics, Slugo. They substantiate my comment of last Friday, "With 15 machines and a lot of concrete work, bunkers are expensive." It's nice to see a new range being developed. I'm curious, is PA exempt from the ADA? I know some wheelchair shooters who would find those stairs insurmountable.
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Old June 3, 2012, 10:01 AM   #4
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zippy, these kinds of structures are exempt from the ADA regulations...
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Old June 3, 2012, 11:57 AM   #5
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these kinds of structures are exempt from the ADA regulations
Try telling that to the wheelchair panthers. If it's an activity open to the public, they'll demand their right to access. The purpose of the ADA is to prevent this type of exclusion.
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Old June 3, 2012, 01:49 PM   #6
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Now I understand why they call it bunker trap. It looks like part of the Atlantic Wall.
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Old June 3, 2012, 02:33 PM   #7
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It looks like part of the Atlantic Wall.
TKM, in our part of the country, bunkers are typically at grade and are unremarkable unless seen from the business side. This one appears to be constructed into a hill side.
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Old June 3, 2012, 04:15 PM   #8
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And when it is too cold in PA, come to Gainesville for some bunker
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Old June 3, 2012, 04:41 PM   #9
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Got family in Gainsville....

Maybe someday.
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Old June 3, 2012, 05:24 PM   #10
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zippy, again, this structure does not come under the federal ADA regulations, nor any other building codes, both local and state...
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Old June 3, 2012, 07:16 PM   #11
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Slogo, Section 206.2.2 of the Standards is pretty explicit.
It requires at least one accessible route to connect accessible buildings, facilities, elements, and spaces on the same site.
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Old June 3, 2012, 07:41 PM   #12
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you are aware that even the feds struck down dozens of provisions within the standards. And, the federal regs apply to facilities that are constructed with federal funds, or, receive federal funds like hospitals and clinics through both the Medicare and Medicaid health financing programs. Also, universities, schools and other institutions receiving federal funding. Don't know of any clay target venues receiving federal funding!

I'm a registered architect and serve on the AIA committee on Minimum Standards for Health Care Facilities and Hospitals. I also served on the AIA ADA standards task force back when the law was promulgated...
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Old June 3, 2012, 09:16 PM   #13
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Thanks, looks like my kind of playpen.

If we do this, more like after Labor Day. Over the summer, I get to play Grandpa with a grand niece. She's turning 12 and will be staying with us for a while.

I'll take her fishing, teach her to shoot and whittle, and to mistrust the government. All the right skills and values.....
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Old June 3, 2012, 11:23 PM   #14
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Slugo, please see PM.
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Old June 4, 2012, 01:14 AM   #15
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zippy, got it and replied. I see we have quite a bit in common!
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Old June 4, 2012, 07:44 AM   #16
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PGC has a bunker setup, the only one this side of Quantico. I shoot it sometimes. IIRC, my best round was an 18/25. Like the dove opener and FITASC, Bunker is a reality check.....
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Old June 4, 2012, 01:47 PM   #17
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Nice looking facility ..../ thanks for the photos..

If I find myself in PA anytime in the next yr or so, I will check it out...
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Old June 4, 2012, 02:36 PM   #18
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BJP, you let me know, I'll take you there!!
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Old June 4, 2012, 02:39 PM   #19
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Thanks,

no immediate plans to travel Eastern US....but in a yr or so ...as things in my office slow down a little ...we'll see...
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Old June 4, 2012, 03:37 PM   #20
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I think I best stay away from bunker trap for a while. If Slugo shot an 18/25, I would probably come away crying. Been thinking about trying 5 stand, which should send me to the showers.
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Old June 4, 2012, 05:22 PM   #21
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Klaw, my first time shooting international trap, I hit an amazing 6/25! LOL
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Old June 4, 2012, 07:11 PM   #22
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Slugo, do you know, is there target storage under the stairways?
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Old June 4, 2012, 07:16 PM   #23
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why yes my friend, and the enclosure has a 12 hour fire rating with a 12 hour UL rated B-label door and rapid response industrial grade, rack storage sprinklers!!!

PS: We use non-combustible (asbestos) targets. EPA approved...
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Old June 4, 2012, 07:21 PM   #24
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...and the shooting stations do double duty as blow-off vents.
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