Re.,Speaking Of Powder Blends, I Am Very Sorry !!

BPowderkeg · June 4, 2012, 10:03 AM

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CAUTION: The following post is about loading practices specifically warned against in published handloading information. USE AT YOUR OWN RISK. Neither the writer, The Firing Line, nor the staff of TFL assume any liability for any damage or injury resulting from use of this information.

i am very sorry about what i posted, i had no idea this was an off limits topic, mods and staff, please forgive me, as i said it was only a thought and wanted opinions......, looks as though i got one.

in the future i will not be posting here, unless it is accepted practices recognized by safe and sane principals.

**Brian Pfleuger** · June 4, 2012, 10:23 AM

It's not a problem. Im pretty sure I started a very similar thread a few years back. You're not in trouble.

ALMOST any other reloading topic is open for discussion, even stuff considerably outside normal practices.

If you get outside normal practices or post unpublished data or data outside book limits, just include that warning you have in your post above and all is well.

**Unclenick** · June 4, 2012, 04:07 PM

Agree, it's not off limits so much as potentially hazardous enough that the warning has to go in. Some beginners will not catch on until it's too late. Main thing is to keep folks safe.

**Mike Irwin** · June 4, 2012, 04:28 PM

The big problem with this is that unless you have a pretty good ballistics lab you are never really sure what iis going on inside your gun. Even worse you may find a load that is safe in your gun but which may well turn the next gun into a grenade.

Duplexing and triplexing loads has been done for a long time, nut it is not the same as what you are talking about. Even those activities, though, can be destructive if done improperly.

Ammo companies and reloading suppliers spend millions of dollars in testing and research to ensure tjat the powders and sata they provide are safe for a wide combination of firearms.

dacaur · June 4, 2012, 11:20 PM

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history has proven that some of the craziest ideas have turned into some of our best inventions

While there are many examples of that, there are many more examples of crazy ideas that actualy turned out to be CRAZY IDEAS, poor thinking if not downright dangerous... Remember that while developing the .357mag, Elmer Keith blew up many guns..... Not something we want our members doing in the name of accuracy thats probably not even there...

wncchester · June 5, 2012, 11:25 AM

Amature powder "blending" is as old as reloading and it has never worked well. In the "old" days shooters had few powders to choose from but today we have such a profusion of burn rates it's not needed.

The perception between what ammo makers use and what we can buy is vastly over rated; the difference isn't much and it's often none at all. The ONLY difference between what the ammo makers use and our's is that we get 'cannister powders', being those lots that fall into a very narrow burn rate that permits us to work with it without all the technicians and test equipment the big boys have.

As mentioned previously, the modest blending by ammo makers is only a slight mixing of different lots of the same general type done by careful testing, it's NOT a whimsical mix of wholly different powders done by guess and by golly.

June 4, 2012, 10:23 AM	#2
Brian Pfleuger Staff Join Date: June 25, 2008 Location: Central, Southern NY, USA Posts: 14,447	It's not a problem. Im pretty sure I started a very similar thread a few years back. You're not in trouble. ALMOST any other reloading topic is open for discussion, even stuff considerably outside normal practices. If you get outside normal practices or post unpublished data or data outside book limits, just include that warning you have in your post above and all is well. __________________ Still happily answering to the call-sign Peetza. --- You do not HAVE a soul. You ARE a soul. You HAVE a body. -C.S. Lewis He is no fool who gives what he can not keep to gain what he can not lose. -Jim Eliott, paraphrasing Philip Henry.

June 4, 2012, 04:07 PM	#3
Unclenick Staff Join Date: March 4, 2005 Location: Ohio Posts: 9,129	Agree, it's not off limits so much as potentially hazardous enough that the warning has to go in. Some beginners will not catch on until it's too late. Main thing is to keep folks safe. __________________ Gunsite Orange Hat Family Member CMP Certified GSM Master Instructor NRA Certified Rifle Instructor NRA Patron Member

June 4, 2012, 04:28 PM	#4
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,097	The big problem with this is that unless you have a pretty good ballistics lab you are never really sure what iis going on inside your gun. Even worse you may find a load that is safe in your gun but which may well turn the next gun into a grenade. Duplexing and triplexing loads has been done for a long time, nut it is not the same as what you are talking about. Even those activities, though, can be destructive if done improperly. Ammo companies and reloading suppliers spend millions of dollars in testing and research to ensure tjat the powders and sata they provide are safe for a wide combination of firearms. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

June 5, 2012, 11:25 AM	#6
wncchester Senior Member Join Date: December 1, 2002 Posts: 2,700	Amature powder "blending" is as old as reloading and it has never worked well. In the "old" days shooters had few powders to choose from but today we have such a profusion of burn rates it's not needed. The perception between what ammo makers use and what we can buy is vastly over rated; the difference isn't much and it's often none at all. The ONLY difference between what the ammo makers use and our's is that we get 'cannister powders', being those lots that fall into a very narrow burn rate that permits us to work with it without all the technicians and test equipment the big boys have. As mentioned previously, the modest blending by ammo makers is only a slight mixing of different lots of the same general type done by careful testing, it's NOT a whimsical mix of wholly different powders done by guess and by golly. Last edited by wncchester; June 5, 2012 at 11:40 AM.