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Old June 3, 2012, 06:19 PM   #1
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is it me, or, have many new autoloaders gone way up in price...

it seems like just yesterday you could purchase a new Beretta 391, Remington 1100, Browning Gold, or other equivalent guns for $800 or less. Now some of the better target autos have topped $2K!!!
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Old June 3, 2012, 06:35 PM   #2
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Everything has.... Pumps rifles hand guns it's all going up. Hand guns not so much yet but they are the only ones that haven't been hiked up.
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Old June 4, 2012, 12:27 AM   #3
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I think its pretty pathetic that the cheapest a new 1100 can be had is around $1100...
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Old June 4, 2012, 08:24 AM   #4
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Remington 1100s are weird.
New ones keep getting more and more expensive, while used ones haven't changed much in price, in a long time.
It seems that there are plenty of them still around in the $250 to $400 range.
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Old June 4, 2012, 11:10 AM   #5
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They haven't gone up, Obama has de-valued your dollar
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Old June 4, 2012, 11:12 AM   #6
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^THIS.

Great guns though the 1100's..
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Old June 4, 2012, 12:39 PM   #7
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Correction - Every sitting President (Republitard and Demoncrat), congress, and the privately owned Federal Reserve has devalued your dollar.

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Old June 4, 2012, 01:13 PM   #8
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Yes, shotguns have gone up in price ...semi-autos, and O/U's, etc - unless they're being made in Turkey or China....

But at the same time ...I think the newer technology in many of the semi-autos has improved as well ...better engineering, some have better quality parts...and I think a lot of the bigger name guns are giving you a lot of gun for the money.

I see price increases as well ...in many of the better handguns too ( like Wilson Combat 1911's, S&W revolvers, etc...) ....and its affecting the pricing in the used handgun markets as well...especially on older models of guns like the S&W revolvers ( which I shoot and collect ).

But remember - the price you pay for another shotgun ( is the least expensive part of this hobby - especially if its a gun you'll have for a long time and shoot 250,000 targets or more with it ....( vs cost of targets per round, reloading components, gas, tournament entry fees, etc ).....
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Old June 4, 2012, 01:39 PM   #9
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funny, I just did the math on the "average" cost of a trip to the skeet range. Say 5 rounds, plus some 12 ga ammo purchased on sale, and it's real easy to spend $50 a trip. Work in some sporting clays or five stand, and the costs go up. Multiply that by an average of 2 weeks a month (give/take for summer/winter), and it's pretty easy to spend $1,200 a year on ammo and targets.

Sheesh, wish I had done this math when I was looking for an O/U. That would have pushed me to get a XS Skeet
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Old June 4, 2012, 04:43 PM   #10
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is it me, or, have many new autoloaders gone way up in price...
It's not just you. Of course, I don't keep a close eye on new gun prices -- gas is too expensive for me to take any detours, to the LGSs, on my way to the range.
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Old June 4, 2012, 05:01 PM   #11
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funny, I just did the math on the "average" cost of a trip to the skeet range. Say 5 rounds, plus some 12 ga ammo purchased on sale, and it's real easy to spend $50 a trip. Work in some sporting clays or five stand, and the costs go up. Multiply that by an average of 2 weeks a month (give/take for summer/winter), and it's pretty easy to spend $1,200 a year on ammo and targets.

Sheesh, wish I had done this math when I was looking for an O/U. That would have pushed me to get a XS Skeet
For me to shoot registered sporting, it is $100 per trip - minimum
2-3X per month and $3500 goes quickly - that's without local shooting at the smaller club, or the wife shooting, or any of the big blasts with hotels, etc.......

I am actually looking at the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model - even at its newer prices it is still half a basic Browning or Beretta O/U, let alone what a new P or K gun costs
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Old June 4, 2012, 05:11 PM   #12
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the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model is the auto favorite among pro shooters...

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Old June 4, 2012, 05:12 PM   #13
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I am actually looking at the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model - even at its newer prices it is still half a basic Browning or Beretta O/U
Stick or stack, that is the question.

If you're shooting competitively, in the long run, the gun is only a small fraction of the overall co$t. Get the gun that works best for you.
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Old June 4, 2012, 05:14 PM   #14
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Yeah, but the pros are sponsored...not that they would shoot a gun they hate ....but just the same...it clouds the selection issue a little bit.

But if I wanted a gas gun ....I'd certainly not ignore the Beretta offerings..
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Old June 4, 2012, 06:08 PM   #15
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No matter what (with out a custom) a off the shelf gun does not fit, I have yet to find one that does.

So I get to look at all options and put on an adjustable recoil pad (comb can be done with sanding or building up is not even that bad)

The stick gun is cheaper and can have less recoil while the O/U means you dont have to reach to pick up shells.

I am more of a "one gun" kind of person. But I have a long way to go before I am better than my Beretta 3901.
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Old June 4, 2012, 07:21 PM   #16
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3901 is the BEST value ever in an autoloader. They're hard to find these days, but still in production...
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Old June 4, 2012, 07:40 PM   #17
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But one day I will own a shotgun with wood. That A400 is rather pretty.
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Old June 4, 2012, 08:28 PM   #18
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D101, IINM, you can get some Beretta wood for your 3901.
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Old June 4, 2012, 08:42 PM   #19
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For a price

Uses the same stocks as the 390 I think.

Tempting:
http://multicatch.com/
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Old June 4, 2012, 09:23 PM   #20
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I am waiting for the new KO3 to be placed on their sporting models, hopefully soon - the KO3 acts more like a JS air shock than the current one in that the KO system is right behind the wrist area
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Old June 5, 2012, 05:09 AM   #21
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Remington has recently released some 'different' 1100s in the $6-700 price range, at least at Gander Mountain. They don't say anything; Sportsman, etc. on them other than Remington 1100. Satin - not Express gravel - finish on stock and metal. I looked at several and they looked like a decent deal for the money. The Sporting Models are very nicely finished, but expensive.
The price of shooting, especially if you want to look at least a little good doing it, has gone up considerably.
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Old June 5, 2012, 05:36 AM   #22
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I've seen the new 1100's at Gander. They are significantly cheaper than the bowling pin finish target models, and better looking IMHO...
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Old June 5, 2012, 08:05 AM   #23
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I am actually looking at the Beretta A400 Xcel Sporting model - even at its newer prices it is still half a basic Browning or Beretta O/U, let alone what a new P or K gun costs
I'm also looking very seriously at one of these. Very nice guns and worth the price IMO. Shot a 32" version over the weekend and even though I don't like the looks of them and the one I tried wasn't set up for me I shot it well enough that I'm thinking about adding one to the gun safe.
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Old June 7, 2012, 10:25 AM   #24
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Oh man, I just looked at the Benelli USA sight... you can pay over $3k for a shotgun EASILY. That seems ridiculous for an inertia gun unless you compete and earn money doing so.

I'm actually looking for a trim 20ga SA but the sp453 only comes in 12 and everything else is around $900 or more, which is not the way things were a few years ago. Prices have really gone up.

There are some 1187s on gunbroker for less but their rep isn't as stellar as the 1100s.
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