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Old June 2, 2012, 06:08 PM   #1
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Black Powder Pistol ID

I just bought a used Black Powder pistol and it needs some parts. So I need some help identifying exactly who manufactured this bad boy.

I know its a replica of some king form Italy.

Markings:

Below the Cylinder:

A star in a circle under a coat of arms
AB in a box (which I know is the date marking)
A star in a circle over PN

On The Barrel
CAL .44 NAVY MODEL - MADE IN ITALY
Black Powder Only

Under the push rod arm:
C.O.M - GARDONE - V.T

The Cylinder has engravings of sail boats.

Any help would be appreciated


Here is a PIC
http://tinypic.com/r/12524v6/6
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Old June 2, 2012, 06:34 PM   #2
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Going by the shape of the grip frame I'm going to guess it to be ASM. It should have a manufacturers logo on it somewhere. Maybe on the bottom barrel flat close to the frame.
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Old June 2, 2012, 06:41 PM   #3
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I cant find anything there.

What is the "C.O.M - GARDONE - V.T"?
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Old June 2, 2012, 06:45 PM   #4
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When searching for parts on VTI's site
this one looks the most similar

http://www.vtigunparts.com/store/sho...etta+1851+Navy
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Old June 2, 2012, 07:09 PM   #5
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"The COM marking is still a mystery to replica collectors. Dr. JL Davis (BPrevolvr) has been collecting replica C&Bs for over 20 years and has amassed an extensive collection. He is not sure of who made COM marked revolvers."

This statement was made by a member of the THR forum.
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Old June 2, 2012, 07:25 PM   #6
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OOPS, missed where you said COM. Yep, COM is an unknown altho Sebou had a plausible explanation for it I think. Parts will be hard to come by unless you can make something else work.
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Old June 2, 2012, 08:14 PM   #7
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So how do I get parts. This weapon is missing some screws, nipples, and the push rod.
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Old June 2, 2012, 09:27 PM   #8
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bp revolver

just went thru this same procedure myself a week ago deer creek has the parts you need they have no web tele no is 765-525-6181 i played hell getting the no. nice people fast ship
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Old June 2, 2012, 10:28 PM   #9
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Great ill give them a call Monday.
was your pistol a COM?
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Old June 4, 2012, 12:02 PM   #10
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I called this guy and he cant help me without knowing the manufacturer.
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Old June 4, 2012, 01:30 PM   #11
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Schwasskin

I am fairly certain that C.O.M. stands for Contrini Officina Mechanica which roughly translates to Contrini (The name of a person) Workshops.

I have a pistol like yours but in .36 and in the Sheriff's Model. I had an opportunity to handle a second one just like mine and the arbor was loose.

I had a chain fire on my .36 which loosened the arbor.

It was a sweet shooter until that happened.

I bought some parts from the Deer Creek folks which were supposed to fit ASMs but they required a good bit of filing. I think this is not uncommon and what it means is that you could possibly just get the parts from DGW or VTI.

It is worth giving the Deer Creek folks a call, not necessarily to but anything. They are just nice folks to talk to.

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