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Old April 19, 2012, 10:28 PM   #1
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Help name this press

Hi all. I found this press in a old shed at work. I believe its missing some pieces but overall seems to work. I hope after a little care is applied I can get this set up again. I can't find a model number on it anywhere nor can I find a pic of this loader. It is an RCBS progressive loader with auto indexing. It appears the case starts on the left side and travels straight across the loader. I can see its missing a powder holder and there probably should be some kind of primer tube in the second stage. I was wondering if anyone knew the model number or can tell me what exactly this press is missing. Here are some pics:
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Old April 19, 2012, 11:59 PM   #2
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Freddie. Name it Freddie

I would send the picture to RCBS. They MIGHT even send you the parts listing.

Heck, they might even offer to refurbish it for you.

Good luck.

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Old April 20, 2012, 12:03 AM   #3
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It is a Green Machine, similar to my old CH AutoCHamp.

If RCBS even admits they made it, you are doing well.
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Old April 20, 2012, 01:02 AM   #4
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The Green Machine was a black eye for RCBS. I'm sure they would wipe their name off those presses, if they could.

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It's not that they're bad presses.
It's just that they don't tolerate dirt or being out of adjustment as well as newer rotary-type progressive presses. When the Green Machine has the slightest problem, things gets ugly.
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Old April 20, 2012, 04:57 AM   #5
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This should help.
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http://www.rcbs.com/downloads/instru...EN_MACHINE.pdf
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Old April 20, 2012, 10:26 PM   #6
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Ah yes ... the old RCBS Suppository & Cigar Maker Press!
Not a commercial success.
Shortly after it was introduced, critics chastized RCBS for, "blowing smoke up our b__ts!"

Just kidding ... couldn't resist ... big, clunky beast, eh? Why was it not popular? Too many mechanical problems?
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Old April 21, 2012, 03:17 AM   #7
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... big, clunky beast, eh? Why was it not popular? Too many mechanical problems?
They're finnicky sons of Bs, that have to be adjusted perfectly, to operate without issues. And... they require special dies (unique to that press design) in order to hit maximum production rates.

It's a good press, but Dillon revolutionized the progressive press industry, and we shouldn't ever regret it.

(I've been looking for a Green Machine for a long time though... out of some strange, morbid desire to punish myself.)
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Old April 21, 2012, 07:59 AM   #8
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(i've been looking for a green machine for a long time though... Out of some strange, morbid desire to punish myself.)
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Old April 22, 2012, 07:56 AM   #9
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From the comments you can understand why you found it sitting in a shed.
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Old April 22, 2012, 08:20 AM   #10
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Well if you load 22 hornet than it could be the Green Hornet! If not just call it crusher....
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Old April 22, 2012, 05:54 PM   #11
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When you asked for help naming it I was going to suggest Roger...
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Old April 23, 2012, 06:58 PM   #12
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Looks more like the emerald city, let's call it Dorothy.
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Old April 23, 2012, 07:35 PM   #13
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Since RCBS warrants their presses for life, make a list of what you need and ask them to send the stuff to you
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Old April 23, 2012, 10:53 PM   #14
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Looks more like ALICE to me!

What a behemouth! What does one feed to the thing?
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Old April 23, 2012, 11:17 PM   #15
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Before I even saw the first reply, I thought "Fred, Name it Fred".

Looks like a mechanical wonder. Does it work OK?

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Old April 24, 2012, 12:58 AM   #16
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Rethinking: Frank --- Frankenstien

If Frankenstein is not unique enough, Freakenstein.

OK, enough ribbing on RCBS's design.

RCBS does take care of its customers. As oneounceload suggested, let RCBS refurbish it. If they really regret the design, they may offer you a trade for one of their presses they are actually proud of. That seems like it might be a win.

But if it comes back working well, "Green Hornet", as rtpzwms suggested, might be a good one.

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Old April 24, 2012, 11:45 AM   #17
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RCBS does take care of its customers. As oneounceload suggested, let RCBS refurbish it. If they really regret the design, they may offer you a trade for one of their presses they are actually proud of. That seems like it might be a win.

But if it comes back working well, "Green Hornet", as rtpzwms suggested, might be a good one.

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I agree 110%. No doubt about it RCBS makes great equipment and they always have. I have never been unhappy with anything I have purchased form or made by them. I never bought a Green Machine, but I had a older model Lube-A-Matic bullet sizer with the main screw rounded off, they sent me 2 replacement parts at no charge.
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Old April 24, 2012, 06:07 PM   #18
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looks like a Rube Goldberg to me
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Old April 24, 2012, 06:30 PM   #19
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A tinkerers wet dream!!!!!!!!
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Old April 24, 2012, 07:24 PM   #20
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I remember the Green Machines well from the early 1980s or so when they came out. I remember taking hours just to set them up to get them to work right. After what seemed like 100 rounds, you had to adjust something again. Fact is these things were turkeys. Most folks I know buy a progressive to save time and the Green machine was not the answer. Dillon got my money and I still use the same 550 I have had for 26 years.
Honestly, I could load faster with a Rockchucker or any single stage due to the maintenance and adjustment required on the green machine. I also remember people who purchased them new getting rid of them. You could find used ones for half price. Once the word got out on the problems with these things, no one wanted them any more. I did see one at a gun show last year in a box with a hundred dollar price tag.

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Old April 24, 2012, 08:33 PM   #21
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All these comments make me want to get one just so I can beat my head against it.

It really does sound like a challenge for an unreformed tinkerer (me).

Does anyone have one the want to get rid of? I will pay postage.

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Old April 25, 2012, 06:31 PM   #22
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Did you look at the diagrams in the manual (link shown above)? I've never seen so many exploded views for a reloading press. I thought it was the manual to rebuild a small block Chevy or something.
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Old May 20, 2012, 01:44 PM   #23
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Thanks for all the replies. I don't think its worth putting any money into this press given all the problems and how non-user friendly it seems to be. I personally took it out of the shed I found it in, in hopes of using the dies in my Dillon 550, but no dice.

Oh and the winner of the name contest that I inadvertently started here is......


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Old May 20, 2012, 07:33 PM   #24
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I don’t think you guys have an idea what you’re talking about, that’s not just a reloading press,,, it a new form if Gatling gun. It reloads, and then places those rounds in the cylinder and then fires them out of the conveniently placed cylinder.
IT was a market failure because RCBS didn’t realize that a gun that only shot vertically wasn’t good for much,,,, I should know,,, I had one,,, for about 6 months.
I called my R2D666.
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Old May 20, 2012, 09:01 PM   #25
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I'd never seen one before I clicked, so I've obviously never had the "pleasure" but simply by the pictures -- it looks like a BEAST! It looks mean and bulky and built for longevity.

I'm quite sure the masses are not wrong, but I find that bad boy interesting.

Then again, I'm in to production and quality, so FrankenMauser might wanna "feel the pain" but I'd be just as happy to read about it, thanks!
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