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Old May 11, 2012, 11:33 PM   #1
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Does anyone have or have seen the Taurus .223 revolver?

I am interested to know how they are, if they work good or not. look like it would be fun.



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Perhaps the ultimate new predator-hunting pistol for 2007, the Taurus "Raging Bull" has been expanded to encompass the hot, flat-shooting .223 caliber round. Available in matte-stainless steel finish, the 7-shot revolver has an integral scope mount and a special cushioned grip to greatly reduce recoil. It sells retail for $1,014.
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Old May 12, 2012, 12:32 AM   #2
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I do.

Bought four.
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Old May 12, 2012, 07:28 AM   #3
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Recoil won't be bad, but there are some issues with using bottlenecked cartridges in revolvers. Read up on .22 Jet if you're curious.

Furthermore, muzzle flash and report are dramatically increased when shooting .223 out of a short barrel.
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Old May 12, 2012, 08:50 AM   #4
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I would also think that, given the rather light bullet used in a .223 (30-77gr) that it would suffer some pretty dramatic velocity loss from a short barrel.
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Old May 12, 2012, 09:09 AM   #5
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Wow. That's gonna be loud with some kind of muzzle blast. My PLR-16 is obnoxious enough, that might be worse.
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Old May 12, 2012, 11:21 AM   #6
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I don't like 223s out of a 16" bbl, no way would I buiy a 223 pistol. That thing is a headache waiting to happen. (Headache smiley)
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Old May 12, 2012, 11:46 AM   #7
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Remember the .17 revolvers - didn't work out for same reasons as the Jet as mentioned .
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Old May 12, 2012, 12:04 PM   #8
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here is another option. 12in encore .223
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Old May 12, 2012, 12:37 PM   #9
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When does it hit the market
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Old May 12, 2012, 03:37 PM   #10
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Use 40gr bullets and a bit faster burning powder than normal for a 223, like IMR-4198 and muzzle blast and boom will be a non issue.
Plus accuracy will be improved.
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Old May 12, 2012, 04:08 PM   #11
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A thousand bucks!? Looks like a solution looking for a problem

Anybody remember S&W's "gun of the week" program back in the '90s? Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery.
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Old May 12, 2012, 09:04 PM   #12
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all i could think of when i read this title was i pray to god that your .22 chambers line up with you forcing cone better then my 990 tracker.
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Old May 12, 2012, 09:25 PM   #13
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This makes it harder to buy .223 ammo in New Jersey.
It also means that hollow point .223's might now fall under NJ's hollow point statute.
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Old May 13, 2012, 06:44 AM   #14
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I am sorry for your difficulties in NJ but I'd fault the state 100% for that, not the firearms companies.

I have some interest in these novel rifle cartridge revolvers, but not enough to put my own money on one like this without a lot more information. Somehow I find the larger caliber ones (like 45-70) a little more compelling. It would seem that the .223 with just give up too much on that platform.
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Old May 14, 2012, 09:00 AM   #15
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I had a .17hmr revolver that I got burned on bad...but I would try them one more time......I think it would be a fun fur plinker.
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Old May 14, 2012, 11:26 PM   #16
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For a $1000 I could buy a great 223 rifle that would be light years easier to shoot and in a carbine probably easier to carry.

Good luck to Taurus on this one.
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Old May 15, 2012, 06:32 AM   #17
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after all the Taurus bashers are done... does anyone know how they are overcoming the case set back issue that is normal from bottlenecked cartridges???

I have a close cousin, a Raging Hornet, & while I never had setback issues with my gun, the tapers are quite different ( & likely the pressures )... as far as function, my Hornet worked just fine... I didn't particularly care for how muzzle heavy it was with the 10" full under lug barrel, & the lil 22 bore... I'd suspect the 223 gun would be just as muzzle heavy...

I converted mine to a 6" fast twist Hornet with the addition of a Dan Wesson 6" barrel shroud, & a chunk of 1 in 9" twist 223 barrel
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Old May 15, 2012, 07:39 AM   #18
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The .223 Raging Bull was displayed by Taurus about 4 or 5 years ago but never made it to market. Like others, Taurus tried unsuccessfully to make a revolver shoot bottlenecked rifle cartridges. The problem lies when you fire it and the case expands it also sets rearward. This causes the base of the brass to wedge against the frame locking up the cylinder. Not to bash Taurus but they at one time had the Raging Bull in .500 mag and .460 mag as well. Seemed that there was issues with the pressure of these cartridges causing havock with the frame and lock work. Pretty cool looking guns but they can't hold up to the abuse that these calibers deliver.
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