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Old May 2, 2012, 12:14 PM   #1
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long barrel semi-auto 308 sniper?

i had a thread on here awhile ago about AR-10 style rifles, now i'm thinking there may be other options to fill my "need."

if you guys were looking for a sweet semi-auto sniper rifle chambered in 308, would you be looking at a sub $1500 AR style (armalite or rock river) or something else? whatever you choose should be capable of making multiple accurate shots in quick succession (i.e. low felt recoil, ergonomics, etc.).

my only restrictions are 20"+ barrel, 10+ round mags, and the ability to mount a scope and bipod.

disclaimer - this will be a just for fun weapon. i don't plan on dropping into combat any time soon, but it should be capable of doing just that.
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Old May 2, 2012, 01:09 PM   #2
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Old May 2, 2012, 01:17 PM   #3
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notice i said sub $1500? that's double!
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Old May 2, 2012, 01:22 PM   #4
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What are you planing to snipe? Lol
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Old May 2, 2012, 01:27 PM   #5
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lol groundhogs, random inanimate objects, the usual.
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Old May 2, 2012, 03:01 PM   #6
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I don't know how much TITAN308 has tied up in his project, but it sure looks fun.
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Old May 2, 2012, 03:38 PM   #7
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$1500 will get you a "designated marksman" grade AR 308 at best...

A heavy barrelled DPMS LR308 topped with a $399 10x Super Sniper would probably be enough to get you started. Quality, consistent ammunition should be your next step, so be prepare to spend the $$$ for it or start reloading.
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Old May 2, 2012, 03:41 PM   #8
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already have nice optics. the sub $1500 is for the base firearm itself. none of the extra hardware or possible upgrades.
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Old May 2, 2012, 03:41 PM   #9
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Sig 716 w/ 4x Vortexx

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Old May 2, 2012, 03:43 PM   #10
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too short!
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Old May 2, 2012, 03:43 PM   #11
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I whap steel plates at 400 yards without a problem with that SIG.


The Fulton Armory "Titan" is a good gun; they do a nice job on the build. CMMG makes an 18" AR308 for about $1350.
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Old May 5, 2012, 05:10 AM   #12
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Try a Rock River Arms LAR-8. Put a bi-pod on it, scope it and use match grade ammo and you should be okay. The LAR-8 rifles also use the same magazine as the FN/FAL.
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Old May 6, 2012, 09:06 PM   #13
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A Remington R25 meets your requirements. Won't win any props from the tacticool crowd, but if you do your part it won't let you down. Just need to pick up some aftermarket mags and go shoot.

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Old May 9, 2012, 06:11 AM   #14
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DPMS LR-308 or Armalite AR-10 flattop with a free float forend and upgrade the trigger. Either will do what you are looking for and those two platforms are the easiest to find aftermarket parts for.
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Old May 10, 2012, 02:37 PM   #15
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More on that guy's SIG 716

They're supposed to making a 20" barrel 716... so hopefully....
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Old May 11, 2012, 11:04 AM   #16
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Among people who have actually shot an FNH FNAR, the praise has been pretty high. I have not actually shot one myself. But if I were interested in this kind of weapon, I would shoot the FNAR before I made a final decission.

FNH markets this weapon to police/LE agencies as a counter-sniper weapon.
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Old May 11, 2012, 04:35 PM   #17
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I second the RRA lar-8. I have the lar-8 standard operator with a redfield 4-12 scope with a harris bipod on the front and bennie cooley muzzle brake. With my custom handloads I can consistanly bust those clay pigeons at 450yds if I do my part as a shooter. The muzzle brake make the recoil less than that of a 5.56.

Fankly I think its an awesome entry level semi that has decent potential for long range. But to me this gun is just a toy, its far too heavy loaded to be packed around the field for any real distance.
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Old May 13, 2012, 05:33 AM   #18
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I don't "do that kind of work anymore" so I don't need a "sniper" rifle.
A "long range" rifle works the same way w/o the human target relationship.
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Old May 15, 2012, 10:35 AM   #19
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I don't "do that kind of work anymore" so I don't need a "sniper" rifle.
A "long range" rifle works the same way w/o the human target relationship.
The whole concept behind "political correctness" is the idea that you can pick up a **** by the clean end. If someone wants a sniper rifle more power to them. Some rifles are just plain fun to shoot, and if I could afford a 50 caliber sniper rifle I would, cause I want want and it is fun.

Sniper isn't a dirty word, and neither is rifle. There are plenty of sniper competitions open to civilians (and yes, Law Enforcement Officers are civilians, if they think differently there is something wrong with them).

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Old May 15, 2012, 02:28 PM   #20
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"sniper" implies shooting at humans. I would submit "precision" may be a more appropriate adjective.
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Old May 15, 2012, 02:30 PM   #21
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i snipe cans all the time.
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Old May 15, 2012, 08:37 PM   #22
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"sniper" implies shooting at humans. I would submit "precision" may be a more appropriate adjective.
Once again, trying to pick up excrement by the clean end. Who cares what the word "implies"? Sniper isn't a dirty word, and neither is rifle.

The idea that somehow a rifle is scary because you call it a "sniper rifle" or an "assault weapon" is idiotic to the extreme and allows those who would limit freedom to "control the language of the debate."

Sniper rifles are awesome. Everyone should have at least one.

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Old May 17, 2012, 10:19 PM   #23
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I'll throw out some props for the FNAR. It's definitely not a battle rifle (based on the Browning BAR hunting rifle). But for sustained (20 round mag) sub MOA fire (factory guaranteed 1 MOA) from a <1000$ rifle, I'm not sure you can do much better.

Yes, mags are pricey (but very nice). Yes, cleaning is slightly more difficult(but needed less frequently) than for a battle rifle. Yes, it's heavy (20" barrel and 20 rounds of. 308, what wouldn't be?)

If you can get over the pistol grip ergonomics (which kinda make sense for a gun with a magazine this tall) it's a fantastic rifle for stationary shooting. A bit heavy to hump around all day, and I wouldn't send a guy into war with it(no BUS) but for we civvies, an awesome gun. Even has rails all over it for lights and big optics, which would make it awesome for hogging (you could take down a whole sounder! )

Don't let anyone tell you an AR is the only game in town for accurate. 308 autoloader goodness...

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Old May 18, 2012, 03:32 AM   #24
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I too am looking for cheap, semi auto, 308 rifle. The Saiga 308 seems to be the best choice. It's based on the 'supposedly' reliable AK design and is made by Izhmash, the official manufacturer of AKs.

AR-10, M1A, G3, and FAL are all too expensive. Few of those rifles will ever dip below 1k.
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Old May 18, 2012, 10:36 AM   #25
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I don't know how much TITAN308 has tied up in his project, but it sure looks fun.




But in all seriousness, a DPMS LR-308 can be had for around $1,000 and sports a 24" bull barrel.

Leaves you some extra cash for a halfway decent optic, mounts and a bipod.

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