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Old April 13, 2012, 10:40 AM   #26
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Of all the ammunition I ever fired through a .303, and I think that over the years I owned and fired six different .303 Lee-Enfields made in almost that many decades, British issue ammunition was the most powerful.
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Old April 13, 2012, 11:39 AM   #27
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Blue Train,

I would shoot that too, but its all gone, so the expensive store bought is all that left unless I reload, and ive been informed that the .303 British is should only be neck sized, and that you only get about four shots per case before it must be discarted.
I measured my fired cases with a calliper yesterday evening after firing and discovered that the shoulder had moved forward and the rest of the case swelled about .006. Which Ive been told is normal, as these rifles had oversized chambers allowing them to acomodate ammunition that may be less than perfect.
I will neck size. This rifle groups nicely, the sights are just poor due to no windage adjustment. Still I like it.
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Old April 13, 2012, 08:42 PM   #28
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It's still a good-looking rifle and should be fun to shoot. Do get a magnet and check the flash hider on the muzzle, see if it's original steel or repro aluminum.

Might want to think about having the scope mount holes filled and then re-blue with the correct British color, what the heck, it's a fun rifle, right?

There were some No. 4s converted to No. 5, I believe for use in mountainous Cyprus in the 1950s, or by the Cyprian police after the British left.
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Old April 13, 2012, 09:27 PM   #29
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Thanks, I will enjoy the rifle, If I do use a scope it will be a no tap type.
I put a magnet to the flash hider, and it stuck. It must be real.
This is a strange piece, its so correct, except for the date, the front of the bolt is flat, the but pad is not hard, its kind of medium. Its a very good fake.
The point of aim was to the left, but the rifle groups nicely.
Ive got a feeling this will end up as one of my favorites. Its sitting right next to my 1903 A3 maby they will become allies.
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Old April 16, 2012, 10:59 PM   #30
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Around the mag wells of my four Enfield #4s, the metal shape of the thin frame corresponds exactly with the contour of the wood.

On both of my authentic #5s (one is from Joe Salter), the metal contour does not have the same exact shape/contour as the wood.

I don't know whether my LE #4/#5 book by Charles Stratton mentions this.
It is kind of subtle, and you wouldn't normally compare this area.
Tiki: Have you or any other guys noticed the two different contours?

TX Hunter: Without the lightening cuts, your action might be a bit stronger than with original #5s.
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Old April 17, 2012, 07:15 AM   #31
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I put a magnet to the flash hider, and it stuck. It must be real.
Genuine flash hider is machined steel and no casting lines, most repros are cast steel with obvious casting lines top and bottom.
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Old April 18, 2012, 02:47 AM   #32
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TX hunter....I have a reproduction #5 made by Sante Fe....
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Old April 18, 2012, 07:37 AM   #33
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If the rubber pad is origional it will be rock hard. Here is a replacment that I used.
http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/...460&catid=5833
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Old April 18, 2012, 08:18 PM   #34
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I have a phony "jungle carbine" made out of a No. 1 Mk III action, but the only identifying mark on it is the logo "Jungle Rifle" neatly and professionally engraved on the side of the receiver in relatively large and deep characters.

Anyone have any idea who made these? It was actually very well done.
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Old April 19, 2012, 09:37 PM   #35
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gvel..Is Golden State or Sante Fe in small letters on barrel?
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Old April 22, 2012, 05:12 PM   #36
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Hey Keg,

Sorry It took me so long to get back to this post, HMM, on the Bottom of the barrel in small electro pencled letters it says. TGI KNDX TN No 5 303 British UK.
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Old April 23, 2012, 03:31 PM   #37
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Tennessee Guns International....They import guns....or did import guns....
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Old April 23, 2012, 06:40 PM   #38
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Keg,

That explains the marking, but the 1942 date, plus correct reciever, incorrect bolt face, and lack of lightening flutes on barrel under the hadguard ?
Its a strange bird indeed, but very nice.
I love the way this carbine carries though, man it feels good.
Its a Mistery Carbine
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Old April 29, 2012, 02:58 PM   #39
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I did notice something odd yesterday, It appears to have left hand rifeling ?
Opposite direction from my 03 A3 , and my Yugo. HMM ?
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Old April 30, 2012, 11:23 AM   #40
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Tiki: Have you or any other guys noticed the two different contours?
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If you are talking about the trigger guard then yes, the action cover loop of the No5 trigger guard is a rounded loop and waisted, unlike the even U of the No4 cover. This is correct, it is this way as a further lightening measure on the No5. I cover this in the FAQ section of my Survey for the No5 Mk1 at surplusrifle.

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Old April 30, 2012, 11:41 PM   #41
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If it's left-hand rifling, the barrel is backwards, you'll shoot your eye out !
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Old May 18, 2012, 11:51 PM   #42
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gvel..Is Golden State or Sante Fe in small letters on barrel?
Neither. Other than the original Lithgow markings, all it has are the words "Jungle Rifle" deeply engraved on the left side of the receiver, and is painted with OD green paint.

It is one of the more elegantly done phonies that I have seen, as it more closely resembles a real jungle carbine than some of the others done on No. 1 actions.

Seeing as how it was done on a Lithgow, I was wondering if it was some kind of Australian commercial venture from the 60s or 70s.
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Seeing as how it was done on a Lithgow, I was wondering if it was some kind of Australian commercial venture from the 60s or 70s.
No ...

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Old May 21, 2012, 01:06 AM   #44
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Tikirocker:

The area is smaller than I suggested. My memory was faulty. When you look directly at the small area of the screw, just Forward of the magwell, the metal edge of the #4 follows the exact outline/shape of the wood.

This is not the case with either of my original "Jungles". Put one of each side by side and you will see the difference.
My previous description stated that the difference was along the full contour of the magwell, but I had forgotten.

It is really subtle, because that small metal area barely Forward of the magwell is not something that people normally compare, and it was strange that it was noticed.
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