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Old April 3, 2012, 10:23 PM   #1
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.303 savage ammo

have aquired a .303 savage and would like to find ammo or reloading supplies for it, Thanx for the help. Kevin
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Old April 3, 2012, 10:36 PM   #2
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http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...ategoryId/760?

http://www.grafs.com/retail/catalog/...ategoryId/224?
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Old April 4, 2012, 05:56 AM   #3
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Gotta love this description for the Hornady loaded ammo...

"Graf & Sons has teamed up with Hornady to provide quality ammunition in previously hard-to-find military surplus calibers.

Arthur Savage wished!

Now that the .303 is back in production, I may just renew my search for it in an 1899 in one of the classic calibers -- .303, .30-30, .32-40, or .38-55.

I had dropped the .303 some years ago because ammo was simply unavailable.
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Old April 4, 2012, 06:41 PM   #4
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"I looked it up and it was made by Savage, so of course it is in .303 Savage..."

---Gun dealer, holding a Rifle No. 4

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Old April 4, 2012, 09:24 PM   #5
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i have 2 enfield .303s. 1 savage and the other made in canada, sorry but a long day and i can't remember the maker. bass pro and sportsmans still has rounds for them, but about a buck a pop. you can still get surplus ammo at gunshows cheaper, however the powder is corrosive and you have to clean them right away. hope this helps
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Old April 4, 2012, 09:59 PM   #6
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i have 2 enfield .303s. 1 savage and the other made in canada,
NOT THE SAME!!! Don't try 303 Savage in your 303 BRITISH chambered rifles. Or visa-versa
The Savage manufactured Enfield was a WWII lend-leas British Enfield supplied to the British army by the US. It is NOT a 303 SAVAGE caliber rifle.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lee-Enfield
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_British
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.303_Savage
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Old April 5, 2012, 09:20 AM   #7
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This is one reason for my ongoing campaign to stop people from generically referring to the British military rifle as a "three-oh-three". It's a LEE-ENFIELD, people!

I'll let you know how my campaign progresses.
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Old April 5, 2012, 10:03 AM   #8
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.303 Savage is easily made from .30-30 or .25-30 brass.

Edit: I meant .25-35 brass (typo), but that wouldn't work either.

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Old April 5, 2012, 10:43 AM   #9
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Jeez - why don't you people educate rather than deride? I didn't know there was such a thing as a .303 Savage until I saw this thread (however the .303 Savage appellation would have made me investigate before trying to jam in the wrong cartridge. I am, at least, that cautious...)
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Old April 5, 2012, 11:17 AM   #10
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".303 Savage is easily made from .30-30 or .25-30 brass."

Not really.

Head diameter on the .303 Savage is .442.

Head diameter on the .30-30 family of cartridges is .422.

.02 is getting to the point where you don't really want to try it.

A better route is to head swage .30-40 Krag cases.
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Old April 5, 2012, 01:24 PM   #11
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I never used the Graf brand. I bought some Norma and have shot and reloaded the heck out of it. I don't consider my chambers to be exceptionally tight, so Norma brass holds up really well. It is pricey but I bought it before Graf came out with their stuff. I have to agree with Mr. Irwin. If the right brass is available why look for trouble?
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Old April 5, 2012, 01:51 PM   #12
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Not really.

Head diameter on the .303 Savage is .442.

Head diameter on the .30-30 family of cartridges is .422.

.02 is getting to the point where you don't really want to try it.

A better route is to head swage .30-40 Krag cases.
I stand corrected!

I know they are about the same power but, never having had either one (.30-30 or .303), I always assumed they were of similar general dimensions.

After looking up the pertinent data in my cartridge book, I see that .30-30 is .422, and .303 is .439, a difference of almost .02"
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Old April 5, 2012, 02:22 PM   #13
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This is one reason for my ongoing campaign to stop people from generically referring to the British military rifle as a "three-oh-three". It's a LEE-ENFIELD, people!
Well, yes, unless it is a No 4 or No 5 which was enough of a departure from the WW I era SMLE No 1 that I don't think even the British called them Lee Enfields.


I am sure it has been done to make .303 Savage out of .30-30 (What is a .25-30? A .25-35 shrunk to fit the screen on the internet, maybe.) even though the .30-30 is a good deal smaller head diameter. There was the gimmick of a wrap of Scotch tape around the head to insure that the expansion would be uniform and MIGHT not separate the case head for a few loadings.
NOT RECOMMENDED WITH FRESH CORRECT BRASS NOW AVAILABLE.
But there used to be a lot of that sort of stuff done.
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Old April 5, 2012, 02:44 PM   #14
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I THINK the .25-30 was one of the old Stevens straight-wall target rifle cartridges.
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Old April 5, 2012, 03:08 PM   #15
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There is a .25-25 but CotW doesn't show a .25-30 Stevens.
A straight .25 like that would be of absolutely no use in a Savage 99, though.
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Old April 5, 2012, 04:51 PM   #16
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Right church, wrong pew.

I was thinking of the .28-30-120 Stevens, a contemporary of the .25-25 and the .25-21.


"A straight .25 like that would be of absolutely no use in a Savage 99, though. "

Sure it would. It would be a wonderful reminder to pick up the right damned ammo on the way to hunting camp.
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Old April 9, 2012, 06:04 PM   #17
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I just bought two boxes from here. I didnt want to retire the old 99A just yet.After all she cost me $25.00 in 1985. http://shop.reedsammo.com/category.sc?categoryId=142
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Old June 19, 2012, 07:41 PM   #18
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Sweet! I just bought a box of ammo for the 1899 Savage .303 that I just inherited. I took it to a local gunsmith who admired it for about 20 minutes, telling me about it. When I get it back, can't wait to take it out and shoot.
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