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Old March 13, 2012, 01:00 AM   #1
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Remington vs Colt, it never ends...

In the spring 2012 "Guns of The Old West" there's a short article on yet another part of this neverending dispute over which revolver is best and why?
The only solution is to buy BOTH, so you can pick a favorite every other week!
Both have some endearing qualitys and I can't chose a favorite. I know price point was one of the Governments qualifications, but not the only one.
What do you guys say?
I think you have to own both!
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Old March 13, 2012, 01:30 AM   #2
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Ditto,
Must have both, and one from every manufacturer, every model, and if u see one with different finished grips on the same model by the same manufacturer that you already own. Well then you have to have that one too!
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Old March 13, 2012, 02:28 AM   #3
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Don't have a vast selection of either, but I'd have to go with the "Colt". My 1860 of oldish manufacture, will cut a single ragged hole from 25 paces or so for the first 5 or 6 cylinders. My "Remington" 58 won't do that, but it's not too bad either. I greatly favor the feel of the "Colts" as well. But I must say, it is real nice to have both.
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Old March 13, 2012, 03:43 AM   #4
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I've got one of each, Piettas, for my entre into C&B revolvers. And I have to agree: I like 'em BOTH! Each has a unique feel and is enjoyable to hold, point & shoot. Wouldn't want to be w/o either and intend to get more, More, MORE!!!
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Old March 13, 2012, 04:34 AM   #5
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I like both but if I had to go with just one it would be a Colt.
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Old March 13, 2012, 06:29 AM   #6
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Both are good, but its a remmy for me.
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Old March 13, 2012, 06:56 AM   #7
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ROA, followed by R&S.
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Old March 13, 2012, 07:23 AM   #8
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It's not about "best" it's about "different". If it's different you need to own it.
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Old March 13, 2012, 08:49 AM   #9
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How do they feel in your hand. Remingtons are designed wrong for my hand. The hammer sets too high for me to reach it easily. 1851s are too small for my hand but the 1860 fits perfectly.
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Old March 13, 2012, 11:16 AM   #10
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Curl your pinky under the butt and that 51 will fit a lot better.
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Old March 13, 2012, 05:09 PM   #11
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Madcratebuilder plus one half

It might be the same an you still need to own it.
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Old March 13, 2012, 05:55 PM   #12
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You mean they make something besides a '51 Navy??
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Old March 13, 2012, 07:50 PM   #13
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Colt got the history
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Old March 13, 2012, 08:10 PM   #14
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According to the colt book I have
The Us gov chose the colt single action army because it was more accurate harder hitting and worked when the others (S&W, Remington ) would not. I read the report made by the army, I think few who read it would choose anything else.
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Old March 13, 2012, 08:18 PM   #15
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I shoot CAS and do it Gunfighter. I have '73 Colt's and one '75 Remington. I shoot my '75 in my right hand and a '73 in my left. Last match, out of 5 stages I shot 2 clean and shot'm with the best time. Which gun do I prefer? I kinda like'm both. If Remington had gotten their '75 out in 1872 then history might be different.
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Old March 13, 2012, 10:39 PM   #16
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Oh hell..........
Just buy them all and hang 'em on the wall, I did!

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Old March 13, 2012, 10:49 PM   #17
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Oh hell..........
Just buy them all and hang 'em on the wall, I did!
I surrender!!!
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Old March 13, 2012, 11:05 PM   #18
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Awwe Heck, Fingers.....

Don't give up so easy!
Just come visit for a spell and help me shoot 'em..............
(you should see the other three walls)

Regards, HH
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Old March 13, 2012, 11:33 PM   #19
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Just buy them all and hang 'em on the wall, I did!
OMG!! I busted out laughing when I saw your post hoof!! CLASSIC!!
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Old March 14, 2012, 07:14 AM   #20
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Oh hell..........
Just buy them all and hang 'em on the wall, I did!
Nice start, my walls are to small.
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Old March 14, 2012, 07:54 AM   #21
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"The Us gov chose the colt single action army because it was more accurate harder hitting and worked when the others (S&W, Remington ) would not. I read the report made by the army, I think few who read it would choose anything else"


Since we're in a black powder forum, my assumption is that we're not talking about the Single Action Army... we're talking about cap and ball pistols. History is history, and once metallic cartridges became the norm, the Colt's were the more sucessful design. That's not subject to much debate.


Back to cap and ball:

For fondling and admiring, the Colt designs are both beautiful and varied. Interesting to examine their evolution and design, and with a large variety of designs they are fun to collect. No doubt they are esthetically pleasing to behold and fun to shoot.

But to really take out and shoot, to remove cylinders and exchange, to use with cartridge conversion cylinders, etc... the Remington design is definately more friendly. When Bill Ruger wanted to build a modern cap and ball pistol, he did not use a Colt as his basis, he used a Remington. There's a reason for that. It's a stronger and more modern design.


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Old March 14, 2012, 07:57 AM   #22
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Willie,

Actually Bill Ruger used his own Blackhawk as inspiration for the ROA, which itself was conceived from the C-O-L-T designed SAA.
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Old March 14, 2012, 08:36 AM   #23
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"Actually Bill Ruger used his own Blackhawk as inspiration for the ROA"

For lockwork and frame, yes, it is a cousin to the other Ruger cartridge guns. Those, BTW, are not even close to being mechanically copies of the SAA. They are "stand off" copies from a cosmetic standpoint.

For layout of the loading lever and other modifications to cap and ball, it is absolutely inspired by the Remington and it bears no resemblance to any of the Colt cap and ball pistols.

Not to mention the name... New Army (Remington) and Old Army (Ruger). Or is that just coincidence?


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Old March 14, 2012, 08:57 AM   #24
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Bill Ruger also used a Remington pistol as design influence for the Bearcat......
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Old March 14, 2012, 09:48 AM   #25
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Some of us don't like Rugers either.
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