what is this

litng1 · March 28, 2012, 12:31 PM

Got a bunch of this ammo.9mm but never seen it before.If I can figure out how to load pics.

PetahW · March 28, 2012, 03:05 PM

It's..................................

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warrior poet · March 28, 2012, 03:08 PM

9mm rounds... 9x17 AKA .380 ACP, 9x18 Makarov, 9x19 Parabellum (NATO), 9x21 Largo, and 9x23 Win Mag. At least that's all the ones I can think of. Without a pic, I am clutching at straws.

Cheapshooter · March 28, 2012, 03:35 PM

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9mm rounds... 9x17 AKA .380 ACP, 9x18 Makarov, 9x19 Parabellum (NATO), 9x21 Largo, and 9x23 Win Mag. At least that's all the ones I can think of. Without a pic, I am clutching at straws.

You forgot 9X18 Ultra!

Get the point litng1. you need pictures, and head stamp information because there are so many 9MM chamberings.

jonnyc · March 28, 2012, 07:25 PM

.....9mm Nambu, 9mm Federal, 9mm Winch. Mag., 9mm Flobert.....

**Mike Irwin** · March 28, 2012, 07:37 PM

9mm Nambu?

Never heard of that one before. I have heard of the 7mm and the 8mm Nambus...

gunsmokeTPF · March 28, 2012, 07:45 PM

The Type 26 revolver was 9mm jap. If it turns out that this is the ammo then you've hit the jackpot. This stuff is expensive and is hard to find. I know they can be duplicated by thinning out the rim of a .38 special cartridge, but I don't get involved with reloading, or fooling around with ammo. My friend has the type 26, which is a piece of garbage, but could use some ammo if you decide to sell.

jonnyc · March 28, 2012, 10:40 PM

It would be nice to know what the OP actually has....hint....hint....hint.

gyvel · March 29, 2012, 03:08 AM

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The Type 26 revolver was 9mm jap.

Exactly, but Kijiro Nambu had nothing to do with the development of the revolver or the round.

Also, you left 9mm Browning Long (9x20), and 9mm rimfire shot off the list.

(Not to mention various 9mm pinfire cartridges, and the "other" 9mm Largo, the Spanish designation for .38 Colt.)

PetahW · March 29, 2012, 06:14 AM

Of course, it "could" be 9x57 Mauser rifle ammo, nes pas ? .

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Winchester_73 · March 29, 2012, 07:15 AM

9mm glisenti for yura pizza pie!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9mm_Glisenti

**Mike Irwin** · March 29, 2012, 07:29 AM

Gyvel more or less nailed it.

Nambu appears to have worked on the design of the Type 26, but he was not the lead designer, he was a Junior Lieutenant at the time. I've never heard either it or the cartridge referred to as the 9mm Nambu.

"I know they can be duplicated by thinning out the rim of a .38 special cartridge"

The Type 26 Cartridge was apparently based on the .38 Smith & Wesson round. Usable cases can be made using that cartridge, but the .38 Special casing is too small at the head.

I fired a Type 26 fairly extensively some years ago. VERY heavy trigger pull, shot way high, but fun in a weird sort of way.

jonnyc · March 29, 2012, 09:48 AM

In the cartridge collector world it is commonly called the 9mm Nambu.

**Mike Irwin** · March 29, 2012, 10:58 AM

"In the cartridge collector world it is commonly called the 9mm Nambu."

I've been collecting cartridges for over 30 years, been going to cartridge shows for 20 years, and wrote an article on it for American Rifleman magazine.

As I said, I have NEVER seen reference to a 9mm Nambu.

Most common references are either 9mm Jap(anese) Revolver or 9mm Type 26, or a variation there of.

But, now that I google it, I see that the dumbing down of American continues unabashedly.

Sigh...

Microgunner · March 29, 2012, 11:03 AM

5mm pinfire?

Cheapshooter · March 29, 2012, 01:19 PM

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If I can figure out how to load pics.

http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=292842

**James K** · March 29, 2012, 02:02 PM

I made ammo for the 9mm Type 26 by thinning the rims (from the front) of .38 S&W, then running the round into the .38 Special sizer die.

Jim

litng1 · March 29, 2012, 04:36 PM

Im trying lol.How do I upload a pic from my phone

jonnyc · March 29, 2012, 06:47 PM

"But, now that I google it, I see that the dumbing down of American continues unabashedly."

Thanks Mike, I'll accept the dig with humility. But perhaps you travel in the wrong collector circles? If you get to SLICS or one of the PA cartridges shows, say Hi.

gyvel · March 29, 2012, 10:00 PM

I had a Type 26 back in the 80s that would actually chamber .38S&W, but the rims were just a hair too thick to allow the cylinder to turn freely.

I suspect the .38 S&W may have had some influence on the development of the Type 26 cartridge.

gyvel · March 29, 2012, 10:03 PM

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Of course, it "could" be 9x57 Mauser rifle ammo, nes pas ?

Sigh... Or 9x56 Mannlicher Schoenauer.

Cheapshooter · March 29, 2012, 11:05 PM

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If I can figure out how to load pics.

**Mike Irwin** · March 30, 2012, 05:20 AM

Jonny, certainly wasn't a specific dig at you, and my apologies for making it seem such.

It's just interesting how things like this take on totally unrelated names, like how in some circles the 7.7 Arisaka became known as the .31 Jap.

"If you get to SLICS or one of the PA cartridges shows, say Hi."

I've been to the Denver-area show a number of times over the years.

I'd like to get to it again this year, but I'm not sure that that's going to happen.

litng1 · March 30, 2012, 05:53 AM

No luck

jonnyc · March 30, 2012, 06:16 AM

OK, I have never heard .31 Jap!

Our show will be in Morgantown, PA again this year, Aug. 17-18. I always put myself at the first table as you enter. Hope you can make it.

litng1, if you email me your pic I can try to post it for you.

March 28, 2012, 12:31 PM	#1
litng1 Junior Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Posts: 10	what is this Got a bunch of this ammo.9mm but never seen it before.If I can figure out how to load pics.

March 28, 2012, 03:08 PM	#3
warrior poet Senior Member Join Date: December 13, 2007 Location: Whereever Uncle Sam wants to put me Posts: 386	9mm rounds... 9x17 AKA .380 ACP, 9x18 Makarov, 9x19 Parabellum (NATO), 9x21 Largo, and 9x23 Win Mag. At least that's all the ones I can think of. Without a pic, I am clutching at straws. __________________ Trigger control: The skillful manipulation of the trigger, which causes the weapon to fire, while maintaining sight alignment and sight picture.

March 28, 2012, 07:37 PM	#6
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,309	9mm Nambu? Never heard of that one before. I have heard of the 7mm and the 8mm Nambus... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

March 28, 2012, 07:45 PM	#7
gunsmokeTPF Junior member Join Date: February 14, 2012 Posts: 268	The Type 26 revolver was 9mm jap. If it turns out that this is the ammo then you've hit the jackpot. This stuff is expensive and is hard to find. I know they can be duplicated by thinning out the rim of a .38 special cartridge, but I don't get involved with reloading, or fooling around with ammo. My friend has the type 26, which is a piece of garbage, but could use some ammo if you decide to sell. Last edited by gunsmokeTPF; March 28, 2012 at 09:00 PM.

March 29, 2012, 07:15 AM	#11
Winchester_73 Senior Member Join Date: December 21, 2008 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 2,745	9mm glisenti for yura pizza pie! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9mm_Glisenti __________________ Winchester 73, the TFL user that won the west

March 28, 2012, 03:05 PM	#2
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 3,400	It's.................................. .

March 28, 2012, 07:25 PM	#5
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 690	.....9mm Nambu, 9mm Federal, 9mm Winch. Mag., 9mm Flobert.....

March 28, 2012, 10:40 PM	#8
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 690	It would be nice to know what the OP actually has....hint....hint....hint.

March 29, 2012, 06:14 AM	#10
PetahW Senior Member Join Date: September 19, 2008 Posts: 3,400	Of course, it "could" be 9x57 Mauser rifle ammo, nes pas ? . .

March 29, 2012, 07:29 AM	#12
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,309	Gyvel more or less nailed it. Nambu appears to have worked on the design of the Type 26, but he was not the lead designer, he was a Junior Lieutenant at the time. I've never heard either it or the cartridge referred to as the 9mm Nambu. "I know they can be duplicated by thinning out the rim of a .38 special cartridge" The Type 26 Cartridge was apparently based on the .38 Smith & Wesson round. Usable cases can be made using that cartridge, but the .38 Special casing is too small at the head. I fired a Type 26 fairly extensively some years ago. VERY heavy trigger pull, shot way high, but fun in a weird sort of way. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

March 29, 2012, 09:48 AM	#13
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 690	In the cartridge collector world it is commonly called the 9mm Nambu.

March 29, 2012, 10:58 AM	#14
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,309	"In the cartridge collector world it is commonly called the 9mm Nambu." I've been collecting cartridges for over 30 years, been going to cartridge shows for 20 years, and wrote an article on it for American Rifleman magazine. As I said, I have NEVER seen reference to a 9mm Nambu. Most common references are either 9mm Jap(anese) Revolver or 9mm Type 26, or a variation there of. But, now that I google it, I see that the dumbing down of American continues unabashedly. Sigh... __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

March 29, 2012, 11:03 AM	#15
Microgunner Senior Member Join Date: March 6, 2006 Location: Central Florida Posts: 2,504	5mm pinfire? __________________ NRA Endowment Member

March 29, 2012, 02:02 PM	#17
James K Staff Join Date: March 17, 1999 Posts: 16,617	I made ammo for the 9mm Type 26 by thinning the rims (from the front) of .38 S&W, then running the round into the .38 Special sizer die. Jim __________________ Jim K

March 29, 2012, 04:36 PM	#18
litng1 Junior Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Posts: 10	Im trying lol.How do I upload a pic from my phone

March 29, 2012, 06:47 PM	#19
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 690	"But, now that I google it, I see that the dumbing down of American continues unabashedly." Thanks Mike, I'll accept the dig with humility. But perhaps you travel in the wrong collector circles? If you get to SLICS or one of the PA cartridges shows, say Hi.

March 29, 2012, 10:00 PM	#20
gyvel Senior Member Join Date: August 30, 2009 Location: Northern AZ Posts: 3,458	I had a Type 26 back in the 80s that would actually chamber .38S&W, but the rims were just a hair too thick to allow the cylinder to turn freely. I suspect the .38 S&W may have had some influence on the development of the Type 26 cartridge.

March 30, 2012, 05:20 AM	#23
Mike Irwin Staff Join Date: April 14, 2000 Location: Northern Virginia Posts: 33,309	Jonny, certainly wasn't a specific dig at you, and my apologies for making it seem such. It's just interesting how things like this take on totally unrelated names, like how in some circles the 7.7 Arisaka became known as the .31 Jap. "If you get to SLICS or one of the PA cartridges shows, say Hi." I've been to the Denver-area show a number of times over the years. I'd like to get to it again this year, but I'm not sure that that's going to happen. __________________ "The gift which I am sending you is called a dog, and is in fact the most precious and valuable possession of mankind" -Theodorus Gaza Baby Jesus cries when the fat redneck doesn't have military-grade firepower.

March 30, 2012, 05:53 AM	#24
litng1 Junior Member Join Date: February 16, 2009 Posts: 10	hmm No luck

March 30, 2012, 06:16 AM	#25
jonnyc Senior Member Join Date: July 20, 2009 Location: PA Posts: 690	OK, I have never heard .31 Jap! Our show will be in Morgantown, PA again this year, Aug. 17-18. I always put myself at the first table as you enter. Hope you can make it. litng1, if you email me your pic I can try to post it for you.